S.DORENKO: Yegor, can I get your short comment about the persecution of Yuri Gorsky, the organizer of the Russian Marches, as well as Mark Galperin, and Vyacheslav Maltsev? Do you have the feeling that Russian nationalists are being screwed up a little?
E. PROSVIRNIN: I think that these are absolutely wonderful Ukrainian nationalists, they have been screwed up for a long time, what do Russian nationalists have to do with these figures who did and are doing everything for the triumph of Ukraine over the Russian uprising in the east, I don’t quite understand, to be honest.
S.DORENKO: That is, these three, do you think that they are nationalists of such a right-sector spill?
E. PROSVIRNIN: Not right-wing, they are simply supporters of the domination of the Ukrainian nation over the Russian nation. Why they are called Russian nationalists, I do not really understand.
S.DORENKO: Even Maltsev? I'm discouraged.
E. PROSVIRNIN: Well, who else is he? If a person drowns for Ukrainushka, why is he called a Russian nationalist? Call him a Ukrainian nationalist.
S.DORENKO: I understand. Then the Russian nationalists are safe here in Moscow, from your point of view?
E. PROSVIRNIN: No, Russian nationalists are those who defend the interests of the Russian people. And those who defend the interests of the Ukrainian people are Ukrainian nationalists.
S.DORENKO: Egor, teach me to pronounce your last name with the correct accent?
E. PROSVIRNIN: Prosvirnin.
S.DORENKO: Why did it seem to me that this was an aristocratic surname ProsvirnIn. Why do I hit...
E. PROSVIRNIN: I don’t know, the usual Russian church.
S.DORENKO: Well, you see, and I proceeded from the aristocracy. Sorry. Egor Prosvirnin is with us, I'm interested to hear your opinion. If we are arguing about terms, then this is ... Let's do it differently. People by self-name are Russian nationalists - Gorsky, Galperin, Maltsev, Demushkin. It feels like they are being squeezed. How would you comment on this? Is this really being done, are there any other nationalists?
E. PROSVIRNIN: Well, let's start with the fact that I have always been against political repressions, and now they are going to prosecute Mr. Gorsky under Article 280 part 1 - "Public calls for extremist activity." This is a classic article of thought-crime, and in a normal country there should not be such a criminal article in principle. Therefore, it is necessary to share a principled position, which is that, under articles for thought crime, no one can ever be prosecuted, and a personal attitude, which lies in the fact that these are very bad people who demand to give Crimea to the great Ukrainian empire, to apologize to the Great Ukrainian Empire for all the inconvenience brought to her in her attempts to de-Russify the Russian population, to give everyone away, to stand on all fours and turn back and endure. Therefore, these are two such not very related moments.
S.DORENKO: In other words, is it basically a purge of such Ukrainian agents in essence?
E. PROSVIRNIN: I don't call them Ukrainian agents, I think they are just fools and provocateurs. Mr. Maltsev did not say that he was a Ukrainian agent, especially since his entire political career is connected with Mr. Volodin. Such a very funny coincidence. Therefore, before your biting generalizations ... It seems to me that these are not Ukrainian agents, but these are gentlemen, one way or another working for the AP in order to become Russian nationalists ...
S.DORENKO: Yes, yes, yes, by self-name. Good. And listen, imagine that the first schooner lands on the coast of America, they ask the people they come to, and they say "Iroquois." By self-name - well, Iroquois and Iroquois, but they ordered themselves to be called that. And these ordered themselves to be called ...
E. PROSVIRNIN: They can order anything, and Mr. Demushkin is not even a Ukrainian nationalist, Demushkin always acted as a completely outright neo-Nazi, he always liked to throw a zig heil on all Russian Marches, to go to the camera with symbols, extremely reminiscent of a swastika, and everywhere to tell everyone how he will soon cut FSB agents. How they all arrange a massacre for law enforcement. And for 10 years they didn’t plant him at all. It is impossible to understand that a person gathered a group of masked people who gave interviews to the BBC about how they are training to carry out a coup d'état in the Russian Federation, so that he would give different replicas year after year and he would get nothing for it.
S.DORENKO: Who is a Russian nationalist? Name me Russian nationalists.
E. PROSVIRNIN: For example, I am a Russian nationalist. Igor Ivanovich Strelkov Russian nationalist. And all those people who went to the Donbass to defend the Russian population are Russian nationalists. All participants in the Russian Spring in Crimea are Russian nationalists.
S.DORENKO: Prilepin, of course, too.
E. PROSVIRNIN: Well, in some places Prilepin yes, a Russian nationalist, Prilepin has much more weighty reasons to call himself a Russian nationalist than these, sorry for the expression ...
S.DORENKO: When marches were made to Chistye Prudy, I remember that liberals walked on one side, and nationalists walked on the other side. Do you think that if such a procession took place today, the column of nationalists would be smaller or wider or thicker?
E. PROSVIRNIN: What is the meaning of such processions today?
S.DORENKO: I'm just talking about quantity.
E. PROSVIRNIN: Listen, I... This is a very abstract thought experiment that I don't understand.
What nationalists? What column? All our columns, which are necessary, at one time marched to the Donbass, to fight for the Russian people. It's very funny because the amount of people...
S.DORENKO: So, from your point of view, on May 9, Russian nationalists drove along Red Square in cars and in these boxes?
E. PROSVIRNIN: In this case, we are talking about servicemen. And I'm talking about the volunteers who went themselves. Soldiers don't seem to have a choice. Otherwise, the tribunal. In total, I think that there are at least a million people in Russia who supported the Donbass by deed. These are the very Russian nationalists who should be proud of. And this Ukrainian kodla, sorry for the expression, these are not nationalists, just a group of provocateurs who portrayed ... Who are Russian nationalists? This, excuse me, some dick from the mountain. The only thing is that the entire Russian march is thrown by these very zig highleys, who are photographed a hundred times ... Some kind of idiots who love Hitler.
S.DORENKO: That's it, it's time for him to go to the Duma...
E. PROSVIRNIN: And finally, these are the people who defended…
S.DORENKO: Yegor, it's time for you to go to the Duma. I'm already talking to a politician.
E. PROSVIRNIN: Why? I am a simple handyman.
S.DORENKO: A digger of nationalism!
Later, after the news of the intention of the Prosecutor General's Office to close Sputnik and Pogrom, Yegor Prosvirnin commented on the possible blocking of the resource:
“Our resource is really a nationalist resource. As far as I know, nationalism is not banned in Russia, and I don't understand why nationalist resources should be blocked. Terrorism and extremism are very specific accusations, in contrast to the nationalist persuasion. "Sputnik and Pogrom" will figure it out on its own, I already said that I'm a handyman there - move the closet, bring the piano.
"Russian" "nationalist" Egor Prosvirnin with Chabadnik Chkhartishvili
I am a perfect weapon, I am a silver bullet, I am an Italian stiletto, I am an unguided rocket with a homing class "Heaven - Retribution", and I'm bored, - this is how he described himself in his blog, climbed out into the big God's light a few days ago, thanks KP columnist Israel Shamir, editor and author of the Sputnik & Pogrom website Egor Prosvirnin.
These days he is reaping the laurels of success - they wrote about him on the website of the country's largest newspaper. Recall that it was this man who congratulated everyone on June 22 on the holiday, on the last attempt to liberate Russia. He pathologically hates everything Soviet, but he is ready to put up with the existence of Russian peasants and workers, because someone needs to work, produce material goods that the liberal nationalist Yegor Prosvirnin will consume.
A boy from an intelligent Vladivostok family (mother is a production designer, father is a theater director). Parents, apparently, doted on the offspring and were ready to satisfy any whim. Most likely, the clumsy mother's boy was not loved in the yard.
He himself recalls his childhood as follows: “I have always been a home book boy who was given a thick encyclopedia for children for 7 years.” And, although Prosvirnin boasts that even in high school he was imbued with the ideas of nationalism, there is no reason to believe that his nationalism, if it was really so, went even a centimeter beyond the limits of a comfortable sitting in an apartment with a book in his hands.
“Home boy” Yegor moved to the capital only in the last grade of the school, and, for the sake of a bright future son, his mother even quit her job in Vladivostok and went with Yegor to take care of him in Moscow. The young man turned out to be not without talents, he entered and graduated from the philological faculty of the Russian State Humanitarian University, but he failed to become an “engineer of human souls” and for a long time wrote in publications about computer games, etc. Egor avoided military service, and although he pathetically writes that he "sworn allegiance to Russia", this oath exists only in his mind.
Hating Putin, he greeted the beginning of the protest movement with enthusiasm, and the leaders of the “bolotnye” were even for some time completely fascinated by the new associate, who was so intricately able to handle the word. Later, when they realized what caveman nationalism, albeit in an intellectual wrapper, they were dealing with, some of them were horrified. And some still continue to consider theirs. Ksenia Sobchak even "was his chauffeur", driving him in her car.
As a matter of fact, they really do have common features - both for Yegor and for most liberals, the main thing is their own self, their ego. And the rest, even their supporters, in the end, in comparison with their loved ones - cattle. It is not for nothing that the peasants and workers, even Russians, are “stupid and vile” by Prosvirnin. And he, of course, is the elite and the color of the nation. At the same time, there is no reason to consider Prosvirnin a Russian nationalist, since real nationalists identify themselves with the Russian people, and Prosvirnin is sick of him. For the Russians, he is ready to recognize only the "white guard" of his readers and followers.
Egor rarely appears in public, on the one hand, he does not want to breathe the same air with the "scoops", which must be completely destroyed, on the other hand, he is embarrassed by his physique. And, it seems, he overcomes his own complexes with his texts, in which he is both a hero, and a bullet, and swift, and a stiletto, and a conqueror-ruler of women. In them he is a knight, superman and all that, and not at all a fat homebody.
However, perhaps women are not so interested in him. Recently, hackers restored one of Yegor's deleted texts, in which the author appears not just as a homosexual, but as a pathological sadist. However, it may be that these are simply the revelations of the “lyrical hero”, and not the characteristic personality traits of Prosvirnin himself. Although expert psychiatrists and linguists may well draw up a portrait of the personality and the author himself from the texts.
The entry has been deleted again, but those who wish can read it if you, of course, have a strong stomach and not too rich imagination.
Our hero":
True, you won’t be fed up with ideology alone, and therefore, probably, Yegor is still doing business a little, selling a whole range of goods with characteristic symbols through the site. T-shirts there, magnets and even teddy bears. Knowledgeable people say that this business brings Yegor no more than 10 thousand rubles a month, for which you can’t really shush, even if Prosvirnin himself sews these T-shirts at night, and not only applies logos. Well, there is no demand, staring, apparently not the right one, or there is a problem with the brush. Not like Bezenchuk.
And, by the way, who said that being a seamstress is worse than a barber, because another prominent pseudo-nationalist, the leader of the “marsh” Navalny, began his business path precisely with a hairdresser? And who knows what heights he could achieve in the art of shaving and cutting, do not knock him off his pantaluk Yale University. Maybe Egor is better off focusing on the sewing business.
Far away from prison than with national-liberal texts. And on the other hand, in the colony, the skills of a seamstress oh, how come in handy. Look at Khodorkovsky, who celebrated his anniversary while in prison, ask what determined his existence in those years - the oligarchic ability to buy, sell, saw, combine, or the skills of a seamstress-minder.
Why isn't he in jail yet?
A young man named Yegor Prosvirnin presented the peoples of Russia with a "cool gift" on one of the recent anniversaries of the start of the Great Patriotic War
He wrote a column on his website, but such that Vlasov would have doubted - but isn't it too much? He would have written it in those years - not to escape Yegor Prosvirnin in 1945, a harsh trial with an unambiguous verdict.
To whom? Jews and commissars, consisting of "Caucasians, Jews, Balts, Asians, other minorities, the most stupid and vile Russian peasants and workers."
For what? “The Bolsheviks tortured, burned, raped, cut out their eyes…”.
Why did the "Jewish Commissars" act like this? To show: that "a boor and an Asian is the master, and a white European is a nonentity."
“On June 22, 1941, White Europe returned to Russia. Without pity. Without mercy. Without sentiment. No glimmer of sympathy. Cut out all the party. Collaborated with the party. Remotely similar to the party. There was no mercy for anyone."
Egor Prosvirnin is delighted, he is with those and for those who slaughtered our fathers and grandfathers. He enthusiastically describes:
“Fascist punishers with Ryazan mugs cut, burned alive and laughed. They drank the Death of the Reds and could not get drunk, thirst burned and burned them, drove them from mountain of corpses to mountain, from mountain to mountain, from mountain to mountain. From meat to meat. And there was always little meat.
We then thought that millions of Russian people died, but it turns out that solid “boots and Asians, Jews and Caucasians” died, and they were killed by excellent guys, white Europeans, many even with Ryazan faces. So if your grandfather or grandmother died in that war, do not be sad - it just became one Jew or stupid and vile peasant less.
If Yegor Prosvirnin did not end up in prison, then all those imprisoned under Article 282 should be released.* Down to the last person.
But there are three oddities in this case.
Firstly, the hitherto unknown young man Yegor Prosvirnin had at his disposal not the cheapest site registered abroad.
Secondly, this site was actively promoted by such liberals as an Israeli citizen and Russian blogger Anton Nosik, and ex-Minister Alfred Koch, known for his contempt for Russians and Russia.
And the third oddity - the swamp party, which has risen to the skies from the words of Uliana Skobeida, is silent in a rag at the sight of the incomparably more terrible words of Prosvirnin.
One explanation is that Russia's enemies still influence Russia's liberal press. Only they can raise kipesh. And if they don't raise it, the liberal press is silent.
Secondly, the enemies of Russia stirred up a not weak provocation, creating an openly Nazi website, which has no equal in all of Europe. And the third, given by our colleague, a Ukrainian political scientist: June 22 - like holy water, all the demons go out at once.
Finally, there is an assumption: Albats and Latynina, Chkhartishvili and Venediktov keep silent, because Prosvirnin is a fighter against the “Putin regime”. For this, they are ready to forgive everything, even the apologetics of the punishers.
But we will not forgive them for this.
"Russian" "nationalist" Yegor Prosvirnin with Khabadniks - Ksenia Sobchak and "political scientist", ex-boyfriend of Boris Berezovsky Stanislav Belkovsky Photo: social networks
* Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Inciting hatred or enmity, as well as humiliation of human dignity":
1. Actions aimed at inciting hatred or enmity, as well as at humiliating the dignity of a person or a group of persons on the grounds of sex, race, nationality, language, origin, attitude to religion, as well as membership in any social group, committed publicly or with using mass media, is punishable by a fine in the amount of 100 thousand to 300 thousand roubles, or in the amount of the wage or salary, or any other income of the convicted person for a period of one to two years, or by deprivation of the right to hold certain positions or engage in certain activities for a term of up to three years. or by compulsory works for a term of up to one hundred and eighty hours, or by corrective labor for a term of up to one year, or by deprivation of liberty for a term of up to two years.
At the end of last week, the Prosecutor General's Office demanded, along with publics in support of ISIS (banned in Russia) and Jabhat al-Nusra, the nationalist online magazine Sputnik and Pogrom, which in five years grew from the personal blog of journalist Yegor Prosvirnin to an independent resource with paid subscription and almost a million monthly audience.
The editors of The Village do not share the views of the hero of the interview and his publication (and do not really believe in his words about the racial political war in the United States and the secret external management of Mark Zuckerberg's money), but consider state censorship of Internet media fundamentally unacceptable. We spoke with Prosvirnin about the audience of Sputnik and Pogrom, problems with the Prosecutor General's Office, and the future of elitist nationalism.
About blocking and readers from the presidential administration
- Why is Sputnik and Pogrom closed just now? The site has existed for five years, and people in certain offices simply could not help but follow it all this time.
Election campaign. Not only Sputnik and Pogrom, but 10 more sites are also there. See: 09:35 - news from all news agencies that blocked Sputnik and Pogrom, 09:45, the next news - Navalny's Moscow headquarters was blocked. To say that this is some kind of coincidence... Judging by the processes that have been taking place over the past few days, a cleansing of everything has begun. Not only S&P, but everything that is revealingly disloyal.
- It just always seemed that S&P has not been closed until now solely for reasons of control and monitoring.
As Vinokurova said (Ekaterina Vinokurova, journalist. - Ed.) on the fourth anniversary of Sputnik, half of the AP is reading Sputnik and Pogrom. The last time V.V. Putin was elected in 2012, Sputnik simply did not exist then, and blocking tools began to be developed only in 2013. Then Donbass began, there is Prokopenko's leaked correspondence (Timur Prokopenko, Deputy Head of the Internal Policy Department of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation. - Ed.) and there is a mention of "SiP", like "Let's bang these Natsiks already? “No, let them live for now.” In fact, it deeply offended me - with such disdain, such a nit that did nothing in life. That's the feeling.
- At the same time, according to the recently published book by Charles Clover, employees of law enforcement agencies, for example, treat nationalism with a certain reverence, finding in it a continuation of their role in the Soviet empire.
They have such a hybrid ideology, monster. They have reached the global conspiracy theory. In addition to Clover, one must also read an excellent book about the new nobility, where there is a phrase either by Patrushev (Nikolai Patrushev, Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation. - Ed.), or Bortnikova (Alexander Bortnikov, director of the FSB. - Ed.) that "in the 1990s, Russia was hanging by a thread, it was caught by the saving hook of knights of honor, agents, officers of the FSB." There are some words about patriotism, but quite conditionally understood. “We are good because we are. - And why? - But because we saved Russia. - How did you save it? - Well, something like this, a hook.
- In any case, there has always been a suspicion that they consider the nationalists as allies, albeit not completely controlled.
They do not need some kind of loyalists, patriots, they need everything to be controlled. Mass patriotic moods cannot be turned off by the whistle, and one of the foundations of their ideology is that everything should be structured, nothing should be on its own. It is known what happened with the "Russian Image", which ended up turning to murders. In this, Nikita Ivanov, who is still working in the AP, was directly lit up with a great concert of the Kolovrat group not far from Bolotnaya. It became an inoculation - once they tried to be friends with the nationalists, so the nationalists began to kill not even the enemies of the fatherland, but simply anti-fascists. Since then, that's all. As Vladimir Vladimirovich said in 2013, “we will register all parties, except for nationalist ones.” Moreover, they were very frightened by the reaction to the “Russian spring”.
- They don't need some kind of loyalists, patriots, they need everything to be controlled. You can’t turn off mass patriotic moods at the whistle, and one of the foundations of their ideology is that everything must be structured
- Do large donations happen often?
No. One person, with whom I once went to Kyiv, pays Raskolnikov (Rodion Raskolnikov, head of the S&P news service. - Ed.) constant salary as an editor. This is not such a large amount that a person could demand something from us, but on the other hand, he is glad that some kind of news comes out, and he sponsored it. There is an acquaintance with Sinyushin (Konstantin Sinyushin, venture investor. - Ed.), founder of United Venture. I met with him several times, he provided some specific assistance, despite the fact that I did not ask him for money, but asked us to hire several specialists. In general, unlike others, I never ask for money, but I say: we need a developer, hire him and pay him a salary, or a designer. So that people can see where the people's money goes. With Nasobin (Oleg Nasobin, entrepreneur, founder of Green Mama. - Ed.) He also talked there for some time, he also wrote us one text, however, then he turned out to be slightly trans-Ukrainian. We are with him and Spout (Anton Nosik, journalist, blogger. - Ed.) once we got very funny drunk on Armenian moonshine after his lecture, Nosik then brought me home, Marina (Marina Urusova, fiancee of Yegor Prosvirnin. - Ed.) met and then joked: “Take him back to the synagogue.”
- What does the paid audience of Sputnik generally peck at - hot news or long reads that you have always zealously defended?
I don't know what she's into, I'm making a site for myself. There is such a journalistic phenomenon - the creation of spherical horses in a vacuum. When something is completely uninteresting to you, but you say: “Yes, somewhere there is some reader who is interested in this.” For this reason, for example, on the current "Lenta" appeared in the middle of some socio-political texts, in some places even good ones, some crazy reviews of popular instagrams of stars. Obviously, some marketer settled down and said: “Listen, Instagram is fashionable and popular, let's write about Instagram.” The fact that the news of Donbass doesn’t fit at all with the review of Kim Kardashian’s ass is unimportant, there are analytics!
People begin to make a product not for themselves, but for some other people, mostly assholes. I am making a product for myself. I look at analytics, but I never focus on it. Galkovsky (Dmitry Galkovsky - writer, online publicist. - Ed.) taught me that nationalism is when a group of intellectuals gather and begin to impose their vision of the world on everyone else, and not when they run on all fours and ask: “What do you want?” Those who ask, “What do you want?” do not found nations, they clean toilets in these nations.
I grew up on the completely elitist Game.EXE magazine, which was very fond of the expression "rebellious Orthodox mob", which the then editor-in-chief wrote about Sorokin's books down the toilet. The magazine was formally about games, but in fact it was about culture, about politics and was distinguished by its great contempt for mass tastes, which is why it became legendary. You can pull people up to your level, or you can lower yourself to theirs. People do not know who Sorokin is, we will explain to them, and we will not make a number based on sociology. How many gamers want to read about Sorokin? Not at all. But they will read. First our texts, and then Sorokin himself. If the audience doesn’t read enough of a large text that I consider good, I will go public and write: “Yes, you are crazy! What are you-Putinists? Russians?
- But the expressive columns on the site probably read more than long reads about the history of the Civil War.
No matter, no one will pay money for an expressive column. My task is to catch up with traffic so that people get interested and start buying a subscription. This is generally a huge plus of the subscription model - the numbers of those who read the text warm the heart, but are not the main ones. The main thing is that in the comments to these texts people write “Thank you, I went to renew my subscription” or even “Well, I don’t like Sputnik at all, but for the sake of Norin’s texts, I still pay for the subscription.” At this moment, you understand that attendance is not in the first place, your income does not depend on it in any way. If you open a paywall, attendance will, of course, grow, someone will even pay out of the kindness of their hearts, but it will be 10 times less than what we currently earn.
- Who is the average reader of Sputnik and Pogrom?
The average reader is me. The rest can read what they like or live in shit, it's their choice. When a text is sent to me, can I imagine how the average reader will react to it? No. Do I have an image of the audience in my head? No. We go from whether a person can write or not. I am ready to endure some kind of deprivation, searches, prison in order to have a magazine in Russia where one could read about the "rebellious Orthodox mob." And I don't want to read a magazine about "indignant believers."
- It's just that it has always been quite comical from the outside - you go to some huge neutral historical text, and the third comment to it is no, no, and yes, “Let's beat the Jews” comes out.
I have never seen the comment “Let's beat the Jews” on our website.
I'm exaggerating, but you know what I mean.
I must say that comments under premium texts are different from texts in mass access - they are generally two different universes. We have not yet launched a system of paid access to comments, but we want to. Because it's understandable that you come in and want to make jokes about Jews in the comments - well, at least pay five dollars a month for it. At the same time, 99% of those who are inadequate will be eliminated at this stage. What some locals write there in free articles - what they just don’t write there. If you want to be Russian - pay, but if there is no money - live Soviet. By the way, I have a dozen subscriptions to a variety of publications - it's easy for me to pay money for large texts on Foreign Affairs, The New York Times, Foreign Policy.
- To put it simply, from the very beginning you tried to marry the concept from the 18th century with gay marriages and sex robots, and, in my opinion, this has always caused and continues to cause frustration in part of your own audience.
Well, what else to expect from the rebellious Orthodox mob?
- But this is a stable and considerable part of Sputnik's audience. What do you think about it?
With self-satisfaction. People don't like our positions, but we are so good that they have to read us anyway. We are a magazine for the elite. For those who will rule. When I said that in the future they would distribute apartments on subscriptions and checks for Sputnik and Pogrom, I was not joking. Moreover, the apartments will be service apartments - for future ministers, deputy ministers, governors. If we want to create a mass project, it will be called completely different - "Stalin and Spirituality" or "Putin, Patriarch and Stalin." Thrash, balalaika, all bullshit.
But what is the point of creating a mass project in a world where mass politics does not exist? The opinion of the working people is important when you are fighting for the votes of the working people, the voices of the working people are important when, firstly, you can collect them, and secondly, when how many ballots the working people put in the ballot box, so many later they pulled out of this ballot box. Because if you put in 100 and pulled out 200, then the votes of the workers are not so important. And if, as in Chechnya, they pulled out 99%, then this is already such a cosmos ... In the situation of Chechnya, it makes no sense to make a magazine for the working people, it makes sense to make a magazine for Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov. We've slightly simplified along the way, removed the word "intellectual" from "intellectual Russian nationalism", but now we need to return it, apparently.
- I remember photos of the Sputnik screenshot from the Stanford classrooms - how much of the audience is conditional Russians at Stanford?
This is our audience. Our second country in terms of the number of premium subscriptions after Russia is the USA. When there was a devastating story in Vesti, a reader wrote to us in 15 minutes that "it will be released about you now, here is a summary." The problem is, the readers all piss. In this sense, in non-public conversations, I compare Russian nationalism with homosexuality, when everyone is afraid to leave the closet, to make a coming out. After this blocking, it will be even more difficult to convince them of this. It causes some rage in me - everyone reads, everyone understands. But at night under the covers and not telling anyone about it. In the West, they are more willing to admit it, because what will happen to you. And here, only when he left for Cyprus, you can afford to pay Raskolnikov's salary.
- Okay, what is your second option with the future of the site?
The second option is full openness. Make an appointment with Prosecutor General Chaika, he has reception hours there. Take a voice recorder with you, come and say: “I’m the editor-in-chief, the voice recorder is on, why did you block me, you nit?” Go out on such trash and frenzy quite openly, start recording all these YouTube podcasts. And in general, it is necessary to engage in political propaganda and agitation in game chats, in the same Heroes of the Storm. I recently read that at the opening of some headquarters, Navalny was shown DotA. I realized that if Navalny only saw Dota in 2017, which no one plays anymore, because everyone plays League of Legends and Heroes of the Storm, then he will never become president.
I am ready to endure some hardships, searches, prison in order to have a magazine in Russia, where one could read about the "rebellious Orthodox mob." And I don’t want to read a magazine about “outraged believers”
About the impossibility of alt-right in Russia, Navalny and Voloshin
- The success of Trump and alt-right in the US is directly associated with imageboard regulars.
Unfortunately, we have quite Soviet imageboards. Since Dvach is known to be registered in the register of Roskomnadzor's information distributors, this means that it officially provides the RKN with information about its users. Anonymous imageboards are officially registered with our Soviet KGB. Such a slightly twisted reality.
- And why did their audience of imageboards rush to the right so easily and en masse?
They were just pushed out of the mainstream media, shaking hands and all that. Questions about what is happening in the United States began to grow among citizens, and there was no opportunity to legitimately ask these questions, well, so that The New York Times would have, for example, a column about the problems of Mexican immigration. If people really care about something, but they cannot ask questions, then sooner or later water always finds some way out. That place was 4chan. There you can say whatever you want, and not be afraid for your reputation. It's actually a very logical thing structurally, if we look at the systemic design of American public opinion, we see this systemic flaw.
Has the left-liberal discourse tightened the screws too much?
It's not even left-liberal, it's mainstream discourse. Closed the possibility of something to express. Therefore, on the one hand, it acquired such a slightly ironic and silly style, on the other hand, it was completely anonymous. Therefore, when a certain candidate appeared who became the champion of the point of consolidation, naturally, they all rushed to support him, this is logical.
- In Russia, it means that it will not be possible to repeat it?
In Russia, everything is very interesting, because we do not have public opinion as such, there is no stable reality. In the USA, everything became possible because everything is very stable there, there is an established political system. The system is recognized by all its participants, no one says: well, you know, we don't have free elections.
There are Nazi parties there that constantly lose, get some completely ridiculous percentages or even fractions of a percentage. Therefore, a person looks - there are questions, but in the best case, you can go to some Nazi party and get one-tenth of a percent, put an end to your career in more or less decent places, and that's it. So the movement starts.
And we have a state of permanent chaos, when today we have respected Ukrainian partners, tomorrow we have a fascist junta, and the day after tomorrow we are partners again. This is the legacy of the phenomenon of Soviet tricksterism. The USSR was a totally ideological state, where the position of the layman was not assumed, it was assumed that all citizens of the USSR were burning with the dream of world justice, and so on. But it is really impossible for everyone to be constantly involved in the political struggle - at best, 10% of the population is interested in politics. The rest are interested in philistine life, and this is normal. This was not supposed to happen there, and since people were constantly forced to imitate a stormy interest in political life, a unique Soviet culture of doublethink arose, which has no analogues anywhere. People constantly made some speeches, operated with some terms, and they themselves thought about something completely different. This culture of total hypocrisy migrated to the Russian Federation. When Mizulina's son works for some gay company in Belgium (Actually, Nikolai Mizulin works for the Belgian branch of the international law firm Mayer Brown. - Ed.), and she herself opposes gays and everything else. When you say one thing, you do something completely different, and, most importantly, it does not cause any dissonance in anyone.
If an American does this, he will feel somewhat dishonest, other Americans will look askance at him. Therefore, now those people who support Navalny, in this sense, are already from a slightly American generation. Like me, who played video games as children, watched American movies, they were saturated with the bad idea that what you say should be done. This purely Western spiritless idea that your words should match your deeds. Therefore, they have such a request for honesty.
If you oppose world homosexuality, then you don't suck peeps in the evenings in gay clubs, and if you suck peeps in the evenings in gay clubs, then you don't perform. Therefore, such a demand for Navalny begins - he is now the only one who openly publicly declares all this. He has no ideology, he has a simple idea: what you say, do it.
- By the way, Navalny is often accused of crypto-nationalism.
Well, what a crypto-nationalist he is, he's just stupid. He has one answer for 90% of questions - “do not lie and do not steal.” We wanted to do an American-style interview with Navalny: “Mr. Navalny, what are your thoughts on constitutional reform?” Because, according to the current Constitution, the president is de facto the fourth branch of power; in order to become a dictator, he does not even need to violate anything. “Mr. Navalny, can you promise that when you become president, you will take over and carry out the reform, creating a really functioning system of checks and balances? How do you see the economic development of Russia?” The answer “do not lie and do not steal” is very good, but it does not answer in any way what to do with the structural imbalance in the economy of the Russian Federation. What to do with the regional imbalance? What to do with your beloved Chechnya and Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov? Because your concept that the same Soviet people live in Chechnya and they are oppressed by Ramzan Kadyrov is perfectly refuted by the story of gays who were killed by their own relatives. Lots of questions like that. He refused to do interviews with us: “Here, you know, he has already given so many interviews.” The problem is that in Navalny's entourage there is only Volkov, and all the rest are some kind of enthusiastic children.
- Name at least one Russian politician from the 90s who you generally like.
Well, Voloshin is reading us. There was a funny incident at a meeting of readers of "Elephant", which had just become a Republic, he admitted that "Elephant" does not read, and he even has a subscription to us. And all the hosts of the evening stand with red faces. Then he approached him, offered to hold a meeting with readers, well, there was whiskey, cigars, he said: “Well, yes,” he gave me a business card. True, then they did not gather, because I am a very worthless organizer.
Of course, he cannot be called a Russian nationalist, but it was clear that there was some kind of national feeling, understanding. Koch read us for some time, but I cannot say that I sympathize with him. In fact, people from the 90s - their period of political formation fell on some kind of freedom, there was sincerity, although monstrous in places. They are, of course, closer than the emasculated Navalny, which shows that he has gestures from the methods of sales, and they forgot to put a book on the basics of liberal political philosophy. Therefore, he mastered the basics of sales, and the Kirby vacuum cleaner, which must be traded, was not given to him. That is why Voloshin is such a frank monster who built totalitarianism, he, of course, is much prettier than this plastic carpet.
If you oppose world homosexuality, then you don't suck peeps in the evenings in gay clubs, and if you suck peeps in the evenings in gay clubs, then you don’t perform. Therefore, such a demand for Navalny begins - he is now the only one who openly publicly declares all this
About Moscow, Khrushchev and renovation
- I must ask you a very important question: can a Russian person live in Khrushchev?
Well, I myself have a Khrushchev, I must say that it is not so scary in it. There, if you make repairs, it is quite possible to live. What is the main thing in Khrushchev? Not that there is a low ceiling, but that there is greenery around, under the windows children run, laugh. Compare with new microdistricts, when you come to some Biryulyovo and see huge concrete blocks, and bare ground between them, some kind of scenery for a dystopia. You go out into this absolutely inhuman space, there are concrete mountains around, an evil wind blows, such complete loneliness, although it seems that you are in the middle of a large microdistrict, and you think: “No, nothing can be done, Putin will rule forever.” Seriously, this is a system of suppression of the will, the introduction of the population into depression and so on. We must be glad that they have not yet switched to cannibalism, because any normal person, having lived for a month in a typical microdistrict, would definitely switch.
In the Russian National State, we will demolish all this Luzhkov’s architecture and everything that is being built, all these new microdistricts, and we will judge those who built it under the article “Crimes against human rights and the foundations of humanity.” Seriously, in fact, when East and West Germany united, the first thing they did was to resettle people from Khrushchev and Brezhnevka (Old panel houses from the GDR era in Germany are still being reconstructed. - Approx. ed.), stating literally that this housing demeans human dignity. For West Germany, the program for the restoration of East Germany after the Soviet regime cost some crazy money, but they have it like a tax on the unity of the country, there are still subsidies to the east. Therefore, naturally, in the Russian National State we will demolish all this Luzhkovism. And where will we get the money from? Mr. Usmanov will share!
- Do you believe in renewal?
I laughed very hard from this booklet, where they tell how everything will be fine in Sobyaning-grad, where there is this bathroom and a mixer is shown, and it is installed in an open way. Because when you see these white plastic tubes - not normal metal pipes, as in old houses, but theirs ... Why didn’t anyone who filmed it have a question: why are there metal, iron blotches, and under them white plastic pipes? Is there some kind of contradiction here?
About Zuckerberg's money, Lisa Peskova and the race war
- Why does the average urban bourgeois need Sputnik and Pogrom?
Yes, there is no need, live without nationalism. You probably want to decide your own fate. A nation is first and foremost a subjectivity.
- Why is it needed in a world where you can just make money?
Because at any moment this money can be taken away from you, a Mercedes with Ahmed will pass by, run over you, and you won’t be able to say anything. This is even better, and, as you know, at the Korston Hotel, where the Kadyrovites like to take all sorts of Russian businessmen, among other things like calling prostitutes, there is a completely unique service of calling a notary to the room, when the business owner suddenly decided something in the middle of the night on reshape someone. The classic urban European bourgeois has always been in the workshop, which stood up for him in case of emergency, and in our country even progressive journalists, when they began to be collectively dismissed in 2014, were not aware of labor contracts, their labor rights.
If a socio-political journalist allows himself to be fired without paying three monthly salaries, then he is not a socio-political journalist, but a clown. Because there is a hierarchy of interests and rights - personal interests, corporate interests, national interests.
If you do not have a nation, as in America, then you do not have primary and secondary social ties, you cannot organize yourself and defend your rights. If you are the only one who is all smart, then (and not only with the Kadyrovites, but also with the state), you can always be bent, and in response you will only sign. Even with this renovation, sorry. Twenty thousand people from a metropolis of 15 million.
Okay, but let's imagine such an average Moscow precariat - an art director, a coder, anyone. So he can, just a little, with some certain level of professional skills, move to another country to live and work, and it’s easier and closer for him to speak English with some colleague from Bogota or Paris than with a compatriot or even a relative from the provinces. Why does he need Donbass, some abstract “Russian people” with whom he will feel awkward at the same table?
Well, this person wants to move to San Francisco, and why? Because there is a nation.
- What does the nation have to do with it, just a normal level of protection of private property.
There is protection of property not because the state is so good, but because there is that same structured national society. This is also why they have such prosperity and everything else. It is very ridiculous to ask “why?” and then say that a person from a society without a nation can move to a society with a nation.
If you move to live in the USA, you agree to live by someone else's rules, which were invented long before you in foreign institutions, to obey them. And if you stay in Russia, you are a nationalist, you hope that sooner or later you will be able to build a society according to the rules that you like. The fact that we have nothing is both a minus and an advantage, because we can build what we want.
Nevertheless, the global neoliberal present has a very distinct tendency to divide all societies into global winner classes again, people who can find themselves everywhere in the developed world, and loser classes. Why should any nation be the first, when they can all settle remarkably compactly in homogeneous habitats and live normally there?
Well, firstly, because the class of winners is an attempt to create a new historical community - the Soviet, that is, the neo-American people. All this was invented by Comrade Khrushchev, an illiterate Ukrainian collective farmer. Now we have finally come to this...
- But the USSR was an artificial modernist formation, but here everything happens organically.
It's just that in America there is, let's say, a white nationality and there is a non-white nationality. There is no politics of liberals and republicans, but there is white politics and non-white politics. It's actually a racial feud, only they haven't realized it yet. They didn't realize that the basket of deplorables that needed to be evicted were not black deplorables, not Mexicans, they were white. It was yours, it became ours. The same thing happened in the Soviet Union when the Reds won. Then they came to the idea of spreading rot on all whites. If you populate the whole country with hardworking Asians, then they will not sit and listen to some crazy ideas, they will begin to form their own hermetic community, which, in fact, they always did, because they have a very strong cult of the extended family. That is, people, having become accustomed, will grow something of their own, as the Italians who moved there raised the mafia. The American state then fought with it for 70 years and defeated it with great difficulty.
If you are the only one who is all smart, then you can always be bent, and in response you will only subscribe. Even with this renovation, sorry. Twenty thousand people from a metropolis of 15 million
- But now it is not refugees from the continent who are moving to the United States, but just the beneficiaries of the global economic system, people who can receive N times more money there and maintain a certain level of quality of life. The same Russians, by the way.
And Russians are not beneficiaries, Russians are losers, they have no state. This is called the trophy population - the same beneficiaries were after the Second World War, when there was an operation to transport German scientists to the United States. They lost World War II, we lost World War III. The good old practice of stealing the best part of the conquered population. These are very interesting theories that do not take into account that there was still human history before. Now, how many such beneficiaries have fled from Iraq.
- Not true, they are not beneficiaries, they are refugees.
And who is the beneficiary?
- For example, an Indian who leaves the country with a lot of unresolved social and economic problems somewhere in Palo Alto, straight from premodern to the future.
What and who did they win?
- They win everything in terms of personal biography.
They are not beneficiaries. Your country is ruined, your culture has failed, your economy is worthless, your army is ridiculous. As a normal citizen of this country, you collect your belongings and move to a foreign land.
- But do not work as a taxi driver.
But in a foreign culture, learn, lose your old self, your old self, your personality and destroy it so that you have a bigger home. In the old days, such people were called nonentities.
- The point is that capitalism will digest the nation and will not choke in the end.
No, once again: if your homeland was destroyed, and you move, this does not mean that the concept of the nation has lost, it means that one nation has lost to another nation. It was the concept of the nation that brought her victory. And you, growing up in a multinational state, are forced to move to a state with a stronger nation. Your nation turned out to be weaker, and there are two choices: either submit and go to the Janissaries, or arrange a riot.
- But at the same time, representatives of different nations gather in a state convenient for them, join and change the economy there, which, in turn, plows up the social landscape, and representatives of the so-called titular nation vote for Trump - this is the vote of the losers.
Absolutely. It's one nation, the white American nation, loses to the colored one. Well, not completely lost yet. Then they will come to the conclusion that even with the choice of Trump, they will not achieve anything and they must use their competitive advantages. The competitive advantage of Alabama rednecks is that they can shoot.
- And what do you think the colossal paramilitarized US police car is needed for?
The police just consists of rednecks from Alabama, hence the cries about Black Lives Matter. It's that whites kill blacks, whites dressed in police uniforms and use their advantages - here you are black, handsome, you can read rap, and we will shoot you. And dead niggas don't rap!
- Well, well, here, for example, in France, almost half of the police force are descendants of Maghrebian immigrants.
Well, this is actually very good, because in France they were broken off, assimilated. And the president is photographed there against the background of de Gaulle opened.
“I mean, why don’t the American police protect the legal rights of those who own a house in Palo Alto in this imaginary battle with the rednecks?
Because the owner of a house in Palo Alto does not own America, landowners own America. Because it is impossible to take only land and take it somewhere. Everywhere the main elite is always the landowners. In England they are, in France they are, in the States they are, in fact, in almost all independent countries. There is not in Russia.
In fact, all these Palo Altos ... That's when Gates says that he has some billions there, but he donates all of them for the benefit of mankind. This means that he did not have any billions. That is, they were somewhere, but they were not his. This is the first sign that you are not the elite. Because if you have 70 billion dollars, you can completely change everything around. Moreover, they are ideological, all these technologists. And if you give 70 billion dollars on receipt, then this is not your money. And where then this money will go is a big question. And the same thing when they say: you know, Clinton is corrupt there, these bribes are not bribes, this is a tribute. But people from the real elite, to whom the Zuckerbergs-***rbergs came, brought in 100, 200 thousand dollars.
- In general, this is still a little trifle, a fee.
And depending on how much Zuckerberg gave there. Did Zuckerberg also give something to the children of Africa? A state is something that you can control.
Why do you think he doesn't have it?
If I put a wad of money and say that this is your fortune, but you do not have the right to spend it, and I will spend it, then this is not your fortune, this is my fortune, and you are its nominal owner.
- So you think that he is not doing charity work of his own free will?
I believe this is a fact. Well, let me now rewrite my apartment for you, and I will dispose of it. But walking around and telling that you are the owner.
- And who forces him to rewrite?
Well, people come and explain some things.
- Seriously? Who are these people?
Well, first of all, there is a great tool of repression - the Internal Revenue Service.
- From which, in a wonderful way, Google and Facebook are taking everyone somewhere to Luxembourg.
Well, what do you think, the IRS does not see this, does not know where Luxembourg is?
So, what can she do about it?
To start with taxes. And then take and adopt new legislation, according to which the company is obliged to pay 50 billion to the budget or close in the United States, there will be a complete defeat, expulsion, and so on. No one will beep, everything is legitimate. This is how civilized people decide.
And all these technologists - they are nobody, and there is no way to call them. So always look at the landowners and not at these people who talk about having 50 billion. The fact that you created a high-tech company - well, well done, here they are left 100 million so that they don’t beg through the gates, after all, people there have concepts, not Yukos and Khodorkovsky, some kind of civilization. It is called legal culture. So "Sputnik and Pogrom" is not easy, but the order of the Prosecutor General's Office. No progress: in the 90s they would have broken their legs and tortured with a soldering iron, in 2012 they would have closed the 282nd with some kind of examination, over which everyone would have laughed.
The same Donald Trump - his great-grandfather arrived back in the 19th century, that is, a man with understanding. Even Obama has some rather interesting genealogy, but Obama was appointed to work as a vice chairman, he worked. It is worth staying in Russia, because theoretically you can become the founding fathers. Now they are trying to become, but they are not succeeding, because there is no understanding that aristocracy is, first of all, the preservation of a human face in conditions of absolute comfort. They don't have an understanding that their children should be ******* [beaten] with sticks and give them the same school that they themselves went through in the 90s.
Therefore, there is Lisa Peskova, who, with such a dad, writes all this on Instagram. The children of Prosecutor Chaika, who look like such sacrificial lambs. Raising a child is about whipping, spanking and harsh discipline, not endless counting and rolling around Courchevel. Well, they rolled, but they don’t know what to do next. And then people like you and me come - angry and hungry people who, in general, did not feel piety for dads, but at the thought that all this should go to outright degenerates ... Lisa Peskova should not live in Paris . More precisely, maybe, but somewhere on the street, I don't mind.
Quite recently I learned about this musical group and have already managed to become their fan. I am very glad that there are more and more talented and creative young people with leftist views, and even so theoretically savvy. It cannot be otherwise, because Communism is the youth of the world!…
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Well done Pavel!!! Briefly, but in fact, I rode through these Gus pseudo-nationalists, discrediting the national movement. On my own behalf, I will supplement the list of burry assholes with one more surname:
Pay attention to the beginning of the plot, how NTV-shniks are trying to oppose the Russian guys fighting for justice and the "correct" nationalist Prosvirnin. After shots with aggressive young people, a bourgeois and respectable representative appears new generation of Russian nationalism(as he himself writes). The following tells about his trip to Hungary and meeting there with his European associates.
The Hungarian nationalists with whom Egorka met simply do not know that this mountain of fat has not manifested itself anywhere except the Internet.
As I said earlier, this representative of Gus pseudo-nationalism is generally very interesting because he is a walking compromising evidence on himself. Just follow his statements and posts on blogs and social networks. Suffice it to recall his previous pearls. Either he offers to sell the right to be Russian for money, or he even advocates the legalization of gay parades. Not to mention the dirty libels against Gagarin and the Great Patriotic War. And this year, by May 9, Prosvirnin also, of course, shit on his website about the Victory Day. Prosvirnin is generally a clear Russophobe disguised as a nationalist.
NTV, in the face of this red-haired freak, forms an idea of \u200b\u200bGavilny nationalism with a human face. Perhaps in this way the pro-Kremlin channel promotes controlled nationalists who do not pose a danger to the ruling regime. Well, how can this fat pig with a sugary physiognomy of a homosexual be terrible for the authorities? This burry animal fits perfectly into the crowd of pseudo-opposition kreakles.
Among other things, showing Yegor Prosvirnin, NTV is also trying in this way to discredit Russian nationalism. So, an ordinary layman will look at this mistake of nature and say: "Well, this nationalism, since there are such flawed ones ..."
Such characters only dishonor the Russian national movement by their presence. They have no place among nationalists. A Russian person, looking at this degenerate creature with all the signs of degeneration, will experience nothing but disgust.
I didn’t think that almost a year later I would have to write an article again in defense of Sputnik and Pogrom and its editor-in-chief Yegor Prosvirnin.
Yegor is in trouble again. Again, the prosecutor's office deals with them. He was searched, and the technical equipment he needed for his work was confiscated. He is again threatened with the initiation of a criminal case, and Sputnik and Pogrom may be recognized as an extremist resource, which means that access to it is closed to users, primarily Russian ones. It is clear that this actually means the "pogrom" of one of the most popular and influential patriotic resources in Russia.
Last time, Prosvirnin got into trouble because some eccentric liberal Westerner, who introduced himself as a "human rights activist", rolled a cart into law enforcement agencies on him because Yegor, in his opinion, almost supplies weapons to Novorossia . For the "weapon", which he saw in the photo, exposed by the editor-in-chief of "Sputnik" to the public, he was taken two green "dummy". The “human rights activist” saw RPG in them.
The proceedings began, but in the end it ended, thank God, with nothing.
But this time, law enforcement officers were interested in a nine-month-old text published in Sputnik - “What we stand for, what we want, what will be and what will not be.”
A criminal case was opened on him under Part 1 of Art. 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (“incitement of hatred or enmity, as well as humiliation of human dignity”). While Prosvirnin is in the status of a witness.
Yegor, in a conversation with me, said that all the claims of law enforcement officers against him do not end with this text. They want to charge him with the fact that Sputnik and Pogrom was going to organize ... a rally of 60 thousand people, after which the demonstrators would have to follow the Kremlin in order to take it by storm.
Well, what can be said about all this? Naturally, the first reaction: all these accusations are, of course, delirium. And so that he is no more, we, Russian patriots, must help law enforcement officers understand who Yegor Prosvirnin is. So to speak, to make his "identikit".
Yes, Prosvirnin is a Russian nationalist. And there is nothing wrong with that.
Apparently, the problem here lies in the word “nationalist”, with which a Russian citizen, as a rule, associates the adjective “Ukrainian”. Here one immediately draws some demoniac, half-witted right-winger or Galician Bandera, or shooting Elderberry, or throwing a Molotov cocktail at Berkut or the House of Trade Unions, or raping a defenseless woman somewhere in Avdiivka.
But, gentlemen, "Russian nationalist" and "Ukrainian nationalist" are two very different things.
Firstly, the Russian nationalists themselves are divided into two large groups: redneck nationalists and the intellectual, as a rule, liberal and law-abiding public. Cattle-nationalists (actually Russian fascists) have long been fighting on the side of their colleagues and brothers - the Ukrainian Nazis. For example, in the punitive battalion "Azov". Tajiks and synagogues do not allow them to live in peace. Prosvirnin, beating the kidneys of an Uzbek or Yakut with a bat, is already too much, you see.
These redneck nationalists have practically nothing in common with Russian nationalist intellectuals, to which Yegor Prosvirnin belongs. Neither at the ideological level, nor at the everyday, nor at the intellectual level. A redneck nationalist is not even able to read Prosvirnin's text to the end, not to mention his assimilation.
If redneck nationalists do not recognize Novorossia, then Russian nationalist intellectuals are fighting, first of all, informationally on the side of the rebellious Donbass. Let me remind you that it was Sputnik and Pogrom that collected tens of millions of rubles worth of humanitarian aid for the Donbass, and now such gratitude from the Motherland.
If redneck nationalists are, as a rule, fascists, then people like Prosvirnin are liberal Russian nationalists. Intellectuals. Almost all of them stand for a secular, democratic, European, liberal Russia, where human rights are respected, where the individual is above the state, where the tone is science. Russian civilizational nationalism (as Pavel Gubarev calls it) rejects all forms of totalitarian violence against the Russian people. The Russian nationalist invites other peoples of Russia to share their fate with the fate of the Russian people. This is what Prosvirnin confesses. This is what we all confess. We are liberal Russian nationalists. This is the first.
Second. As a rule, liberal Russian nationalists are "nerds", office hamsters. Muscle flexing and other militancy are not their forte. The vast majority of them were not even in the warring Donbass, because they were afraid. They can be killed there.
Therefore, only people with a very strong artistic imagination can see in such people, and in particular, in Prosvirnin, leaders leading the "Black Hundreds" with axes to the Kremlin. You have confused Prosvirnin with redneck nationalists. The Readers' Club of Sputnik and Pogrom is no worse than the Skillful Hands circle.
The situation with Prosvirnin should, finally, force us, liberal Russian nationalists, to unite. Let's take an example from our opponents, Western liberals. You just try to offend one of them - they immediately come to each other's defense, and we are divided.
Further, it is high time to do something so that we, in the State Duma, have our own lobby, which would be engaged in the reform of the Criminal Code so that articles would disappear from there, which, pardon the tautology, would no longer allow criminal prosecution against liberal Russian nationalists.
It is also time to start carrying out educational work among the three groups of citizens who are so frightened by the phrase "Russian nationalist" - among law enforcement officers, leftists and national minorities, who should be explained the difference between pogrom redneck nationalism and liberal Russian nationalism.
I am sure that Prosvirnin’s problems today are not due to the fact that Sputnik and Pogrom writes something about power (they haven’t written about domestic politics for a long time), but because, it seems to me, old enemies Yegor from left-wing circles or those associated with national minorities who confuse outrageousness with extremism snitched on him.
So, let's, gentlemen, before it's too late, let's say to law enforcement officers "Hands off Prosvirnin!", so that later we don't have to chant "Freedom to Prosvirnin!"
