One of the most common questions among my clients and friends is the question of having children. Will they be at all? The answer to this question can give a birth horoscope. Unfortunately, not everything depends on us. If in this life, by fate, someone is not given to become parents, then most likely this will not happen. Of course, if your natal chart does not deny the appearance of a baby, then you will have it - either easily and naturally, or with the participation of doctors. And at your request. Often, girls who have not yet acquired children hear tactless questions addressed to them on the topic: “Why ?!” And even better: “What are you - childfree ?!” And then! Certainly. Be sure to insert a new learned foreign word in order to pass for an erudite. Or show a complete lack of education. It's not the same for everybody. Are there few reasons? It is unlikely that anyone, in response to such a clarification, will want to lay out a medical history or similar personal information that does not concern anyone. Suddenly, a person simply cannot have children or has not yet met a worthy father of the family. Or mother. Or met, but not that. Perhaps a person does not want children at all or is currently not ready for such a responsible step. Or maybe it's just not destiny. Our personal horoscope will tell us about fate or non-fate. The most important planet that is responsible for the birth of children is Jupiter.
Consider Jupiter from all sides - what is its essential power, whether it is afflicted by malefics Saturn or Mars. Of particular importance is the defeat of Jupiter by Saturn. Next, we consider the individual significator of children for its merits and defeats.
It is very important to understand in which signs of the Zodiac the Ascendant and cusp of the 5th House are located, as well as in which signs Jupiter, the ruler of the 5th House and the Point of Children and the Moon, are located, because. signs are divided into fertile, barren and neutral.
According to traditional astrology according to V. Lilly:
Fertile signs: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces.
Barren signs: Gemini, Leo, Virgo.
The rest of the signs are neutral. According to some teachings, Taurus, Libra and Capricorn are recognized as semi-fertile signs.
In the process of making a judgment, it is imperative to take into account aspects from the ruler of the Children's Point to the ruler of the horoscope and (or) to the cusp of the 5th House. It matters whether the ruling planet of the Point of Children is a pest or a benefactor, it will interfere or, conversely, help.
If the cusp of the 5th House is in a fertile sign, then this implies many children, Jupiter, which is in a fertile sign, will say the same. If Jupiter or the cusp of the 5th House is in a barren sign, there are few children or their absence in the presence of additional factors.
Saturn in the 5th House may indicate illegitimate children.
East Jupiter in the 1st or 10th House indicates that children will appear in the first half of life, West Jupiter in the 4th or 7th House gives children in the second half of life.
Venus in the 5th House, free from retrograde and burning, will give the desired number of children, from communication with which the parent will enjoy. If the 5th House is ruled by Mars, or if Mars is actually in the House of Children, then the baby will meet the characteristics of this planet.
If the Sun is seriously affected, then most likely there will be no marriage and children, but it is still extremely important to consider additional signs.
In any case, no matter what we ask the stars about, we look at the big picture.
Natal astrology allows you to learn a lot about the potencies of a person, for example, his ability to conceive and give birth to children. Children in the natal chart: their number, probable gender, your relationship with offspring, are determined by special astrological indicators.
You can clarify the issue of childbearing with a professional astrologer, but if you wish, you can really do it yourself. It is enough to find astrological indications regarding children in the natal chart, and this article is designed to help with this.
Children in the natal chart: data analysis
To determine the possibility of having children and their number with potential parents, you must first analyze the horoscopes of both partners, always taking into account the issue of their compatibility. It is these actions that will help to find out why partners have not been able to have children for a long time.
Modern astrology operates in many ways to read natal charts. However, in this case it is more appropriate to use the traditional data interpretation scheme. In working with a horoscope, the master takes into account the signs of the zodiac, the features of their division into zones, aspects and the layout of astrological houses, planets related to children. The degrees of fertility and infertility are also taken into account, as well as the so-called parses or lots of children (special points in the horoscope).
What should I pay attention to when decrypting data?
First of all, these are the signs of the zodiac. It is believed that some signs increase fertility, while others, on the contrary, decrease.
The most prolific are all the signs of the water element: Cancer, Pisces, Scorpio, and also the earthly Taurus.
Signs of moderate fertility: Sagittarius and according to some astrologers, Capricorn and Libra.
Barren (sterile) signs: Aquarius, Leo, Virgo, Gemini, Aries.
Working on the topic of children, astrologers necessarily analyze the planets, which are also divided into fertile and sterile. They identify all the indicators of children in the natal chart, compare them with infertility indicators, if any, carry out similar work with the partner’s chart, and only then make some kind of forecast. Only the probability, the chance to conceive and have children, which is always there, is considered and evaluated if there is at least one important indication in the natal chart. Even when children are not visible in the natal chart, but there are many indicators of infertility, the current level of medicine allows you to work wonders. Therefore, it is impossible to give a 100% guarantee of the reliability of the forecast!
Children in the natal chart: factors affecting fertility
Modern astrologers identify a number of the most prolific planets that everyone needs to watch - these are Jupiter, Venus and the Moon. The ruling planets of water signs are also important - Neptune for women, and Pluto and Mars for men. The remaining objects of the horoscope in classical astrology are considered infertile.
Why are these planets taken into account? It is believed that Jupiter, Venus and the Moon are humid, but the first two planets are also warm. It is these conditions that are most favorable for conceiving a child.
First of all, the location and aspects of the fertile planets in the horoscopes of partners are taken into account. They should have a connection with the fourth, fifth or eleventh houses of the horoscope, related to conception and childbearing.
The indicators of children in the natal chart are as follows:
- 1st, 4th, 5th and 11th houses in fruitful signs;
- the indicated houses and their rulers, as well as the Moon, Venus, Jupiter, fall into the fertile signs of the zodiac;
- the planets listed above are located in the indicated houses;
- fertile planets govern the signs of the zodiac in which the peaks of these houses are located;
- there are harmonious aspects between the rulers of the 1st, 4th, 5th, 11th houses and the objects in these houses.
In addition, the location of the peaks of houses and planets in special degrees of fertility increases fertility, but first of all, the main factors are important. If there are at least two or three fertility indicators in the natal chart, children will almost certainly be. The more indications, the more large a person can be.
How to look for the answer to a question in the natal chart
To identify the possibility of having children between partners, it is necessary to follow a certain mechanism:
- analyze the first, fourth, fifth and eleventh houses in the natal charts of partners. If such houses are placed in the fertile signs of the zodiac, then we can talk about the fertility of the couple. If placed in barren signs with only one partner, then the probability of conception will be lower than usual. If both have infertility, incompatibility between both partners is possible;
- you need to look at exactly which planets are in the houses. The more prolific celestial bodies in the houses, the greater the likelihood of multiple pregnancy;
- calculate the strength of the planets and find out whether they retain their primary qualities, being in the right houses and signs, or have lost the necessary power of influence;
- study all the major and minor aspects of the planets that are relevant to questions of progeny;
- in order to establish the gender of children, it is necessary to analyze the natal chart for the involvement of male and female signs of the zodiac, as well as the degrees in which the planets fell, the peaks of the 4th, 5th, 11th houses and the lot of children.
The classification by gender type is as follows: Aries is a male sign, after it Taurus is female, then Gemini is male, Cancer is female, and so on in a circle up to the sign of Pisces. All odd degrees are masculine, all even degrees are feminine. If the ruling planets of the 4th, 5th, 11th houses, the houses themselves, are located mainly in male signs and degrees, then the birth of boys is high, if female signs and degrees dominate - girls.
It is this principle of work that allows us to systematize the data obtained and talk about the infertility of a couple or the possibility of having offspring.
But you should also take into account the special principles of working with the natal chart. The Sun and Moon located in the fifth house may not carry any information about the offspring, especially if the luminaries do not rule the 4th or 5th house. As a rule, they speak only about the internal qualities of the owner of the horoscope - his desire to have children and love for them.
Possible number of children
The potential number of children in the natal chart is often indicated by the number of progressive aspects that the ruler of the fifth house forms before he leaves the zodiac sign of his natal position. Major aspects are especially important: conjunction (0°), sextile (60°), square (90°), trine (120°) and opposition (180°).
If Jupiter is in the fifth house, then it increases the chance of not only having children, but also their number. Moreover, this planet does not always speak of blood offspring. For example, Steven Spielberg's horoscope, in which Jupiter is also placed in the fifth house, shows a large number of children. The director himself has seven children: two adopted, two from a previous marriage and three from his current wife.
Mercury is a fairly strong planet and often affects the birth of twins. If she is in any of the houses responsible for childbearing, this may indicate a multiple pregnancy or the birth of children from different people. Mercury can indicate childlessness if it is in the fifth house and only in conjunction with other unfertile planets.
If in the natal chart Saturn is in the fifth house, then we should expect the birth of the first child only at a more mature age. At the same time, this planet can talk about the fear of the owner of the horoscope to have children, in more frequent cases indicates their small number (1-2 children).
If Uranus is located in any of the three houses responsible for offspring, then you should be extremely careful. He points to complications during childbearing, also talks about unplanned pregnancies. Uranus is the planet of extremes. He can speak both for the absence of children, and testify to a large number of them.
The planet Neptune talks about the adoption of a child, but does not tell you about his own children, you will have to focus on the location of other celestial bodies in the natal chart.
The nature of the child according to the natal chart
The astrological characteristic of the horoscope provides not only an analysis of the possibility of having children, but also their inner convictions and character. So Venus in the fifth house indicates that in the future a harmonious relationship will develop between the owner of the horoscope and his child.
Mars in the fifth house says that the children of the owner of the horoscope will be quite naughty and complex, you will have to make a lot of effort and work on them. These are impulsive children who gradually have to be accustomed to correct behavior and thinking.
The location of Uranus in the fifth house shows that the child of the owner of the horoscope can be capricious: nervous, unpredictable and independent, but at the same time extremely original and inquisitive.
What causes incorrect decoding of cards
In some cases, inattention can lead to quite negative consequences and undermine the authority of even a master of astrology.
There are several negative aspects of incorrect decoding of the natal chart:
- telling a person the news that he will not be able to have children will entail lengthy medical examinations, expensive courses of treatment, and even operations, artificial insemination;
- will cause nervous disorders, which will also negatively affect the rapid recovery of the body;
- having read the card incorrectly and reporting the possibility of having children, the astrologer will set the partners in a positive way, but all their attempts will be fruitless.
Being engaged in astrological practice, it is extremely important not to be mistaken in your forecasts. It is impossible to pass a “sentence” on a client, since the work of an astrologer is not only the study of the influence of stars and planets on the fate of a person, but also the ability to support him in difficult times, direct or set him up for a positive result.
That is why most astrologers proceed from the principles of humanism. Even if the natal chart contains information that can become a source of stress for its owner, you should definitely find comforting information in the horoscope and report it. This will reduce the degree of decline in vitality and mood of the client. But, despite good intentions, you should always remember the principles of objectivism and in no case display deliberately false information in the horoscope.
In this article, we will look at how children are seen in the natal chart, and how to predict the birth of a child. Let's start right away with the main thing. To predict the birth of a child, you need to find the future parent of the planet in the natal chart, the distance between which in degrees approximately corresponds to the childbearing age in years. That is, we are looking for planets, the angular distance between which is 16 - 40 degrees. Next, you need to select suitable pairs of planets. In these pairs, the Moon, Sun, Jupiter and Venus should be represented mainly. Also, in a suitable pair, only one of these planets can be represented, but then the probability of making the forecast decreases, or rather, the possibility of an event of a different nature appears. In the end, we do the calculation for the selected pairs. For example, if in the natal chart the distance between the Sun and Venus is 27 degrees 10 minutes, then we can talk about a slightly higher probability of having a child at the age of 27 years and 2 months (10 minutes is one sixth of a degree, which corresponds to one sixth of a year, that is two months).
The cusps of houses can also participate in the formation of such pairs. In this context, of interest are primarily the ascendant, as well as the cusps of the fourth, fifth, seventh and eighth houses. Pairs involving fictitious points, such as the lunar nodes, Lilith and Selena, should also be looked at, especially the lunar nodes. It should be borne in mind that children in the natal chart are a karmic phenomenon, and Rahu, Ketu, Lilith and Selena are just present in pronounced karmic events. Some astrologers try to consider lots (Arabic dots). This is especially tempting because there are lots for the birth of children, and with an indication of gender. But the use of Arabic dots in practice does not give as brilliant results as we would like.
Children in the natal chart can be identified by the movement of heavy planets. Pluto is especially good in this sense, as it has a connection with Scorpio and the eighth house, responsible for the processes of birth and death. It is worth paying attention to the transit passage of Pluto on the Moon, Venus and the Sun, as well as on the nodes and cusps of the houses mentioned above.
But one should not think that children in the natal chart are determined with high accuracy. Firstly, any of the described aspects can be an indication of another event that is close in astrological meaning. For example, a distance of 27 degrees 10 minutes between the Sun and Venus can at 27 years and 2 months give with equal probability marriage, the appearance of a lover (lover) and the birth of a child, and the passage of transit Pluto on Venus can give both the formation of a love affair and its destruction. Secondly, the forecast takes into account a kind of orb plus or minus two or three months. And thirdly, the aspect can work both at the time of birth and at the time of conception.
I found an article about children in the horoscope. I'll keep it just in case.
This article contains information related to the topic of children, childbearing, childlessness. The purpose of the article is to try to analyze astrological judgments on this important and burning topic. Astrological judgments refer to different eras and different cultures, we can follow how the approach to the analysis of the horoscope has changed, but it is clear that much has been preserved and has found application both in our modern life and in the modern astrological view. Such a synthesis of astrological knowledge allows a more complete analysis and interpretation of natal charts.
Mahabharata:“Whatever karma a person has earned in his previous lives, he himself, personally, must also experience the consequences.”
"From the moment a person enters the mother's womb, he begins to experience the results of the karma of his previous lives."
About the children of K.N. Rao in the book "Karma and reincarnation in Indian astrology"
Children:
a) a bad child: behaves like an enemy, hates his parents, makes fun of them. Having married, he continues to fool his parents.
b) a good child: always obeys his parents. Having grown up, he does not forget about his parents, he does not forget about them even after death.
c) the middle child: he is neither happy nor unhappy with his parents, gives them nothing and takes nothing.
Everything that does not happen is the result of our actions in previous lives. K.N.Rao.
Important note! Do not rush to jump to conclusions based on one or two planetary aspects that promise danger to children without having read this article to the end. There should be a sufficient number of such indications, among them will be the defeat of the elements of 5 or 11 houses from the elements of 8 or the Black Moon, the defeat of the elements of the child's house can also be from derivative houses of danger. Correct conclusions can only be drawn by a professional astrologer. These materials are selected for reflection on the topic of children, but not for interpretation and quick wrong conclusions.
Issues of childbearing through the eyes of tradition:
Indications for children in natal according to tradition, Ibn Ezra:
“The fifth house represents children. Literally all ancient scientists, among them Ptolemy, unanimously agreed that Jupiter is the significator of children. Therefore, without a doubt, Jupiter should be considered. If he is in a barren sign, the native will have few children, if in a watery sign, many will be born.
If Jupiter is in front of the Sun, either in the first or in the tenth house, the native will have children in the first half of his life.
If Jupiter is behind the Sun, in 7 or 4 houses, a person will have children in the second half of life.
When Jupiter is in a masculine sign and in the masculine quarter of the sky, most of the children will be boys; when Jupiter is in a feminine sign and in the feminine quarter of the sky, girls.
If Mars forms an aspect of square or opposition with Jupiter, or is near it, then during the life of the born, most of his children will die.
(Note: this is one of the indirect indications of the danger to the child, in this case there are no references to the fact that both planets should be related to the house of the child, that Jupiter or Mars are related to the 8th house, etc. In this case, the conclusion about danger was made on the basis that Jupiter is symbolically responsible for children, and Mars is considered a malefic planet).
Indications for the absence of children by tradition:
Yaqub al-Kindi:
“Determine the place of Jupiter and the first degree of the fifth house, as well as the ruler of the fifth house, the ruler of the fifth hour, and also the ruler of the place in which the Point of Children is located, find out which of the planets has the greatest dignity in these places. If this significator is in aspect with the ruler of the born, such a person will acquire offspring. If the significator does not form an aspect with the ruler of the born, he will not have children.
Enoch:“When Venus, being the ruler of a born, is in Leo or Scorpio, or burned by the Sun, this person will never be able to have children due to physical defects of specific organs.”
Ibn Ezra:“If you find Venus in the fifth house, and it is not burned and not retrograde, and no bad panet is square or opposition aspect with it, this means that this person will have children for himself as much as he wants, and all of them will be obedient to him; and this born will spend his whole life in pleasures ... "
(These judgments refer to the Middle Ages (12th century), the conclusions of ancient astrologers were associated with the symbolism of the planets and their nature. The nature of the planets: neutral, beneficent, malefic).
Judgments about the fifth house according to Lilly:
“By this house we judge children ... The position of Mars and Saturn in this house makes this house unhappy, these planets show naughty children, failures in this area.
Here you must consider the fifth house, then the eleventh and the first, and if in these houses you find fruitful signs, offspring is promised; if barren signs occupy the cusps of these houses, and barren planets are located in them, they show the absence of children. When there are no planets in these houses, turn to the lord of the fifth, collect indicators of fertility and infertility, judge by most indicators.
The planets signifying good offspring are Jupiter, Venus, the Moon and the Ascending Node is also active.
Barren planets - Saturn, Mars, Sun, to the value of which is added the Descending Node.
Mercury, being of such a changeable nature and so indeterminate, is always judged according to the planet whose nature it takes by conjunction or aspect, or in whose essential virtues it is.
If the planet promising children is in the 5th house and the opposite planet is in the 11th house, prefer the planet in the 5th house to the one in the 11th house and say that the native will have children.
Indication of children and absence of children.
On the contrary, if a barren planet is in the fifth, fertile in the 11th house, it will bring barrenness or lack of children rather than otherwise.
If there are no planets in these houses, then consider the lord of the fifth, if it is a fertile planet - the native will conceive children, if barren - the native will have no offspring or very little of him will survive.
If a fertile planet in a fertile sign, especially in the fifth house, is an obvious indicator of children, judge the opposite of a barren planet in a barren sign.
A fertile planet in a barren sign shows the mean. A naturally barren planet in a fertile sign does little in the matter of children.
Shestopalov SV "Analysis of the horoscope": "The fifth field describes all the circumstances associated with children. Issues of well-being, health, upbringing and relationships with children, what they will be, how many of them, whether they will be early or late. It must be borne in mind that the fifth field determines the attitude not only to one's own children, but also to strangers.
Indications of danger to children.
Damage to the elements of the 5th field from the 8th field indicates a danger to children. The more such lesions, the greater the danger to the child. The position of the Black Moon in the 5th field may indicate a threat to one of the children.
The disharmonious interaction of the elements of the 5th and 12th houses indicates unfortunate circumstances with children and even a danger to the children of the native.
The eleventh field is responsible for the first son of the father and the first daughter of the mother.
The disharmonious influence of the Black Moon on the 11th field may indicate a threat to one of the children. The disharmonious interaction of the elements of the 11th and 8th fields may indicate a danger to one of the children.
Early or late children.
Will there be children early or late? A fire sign on the cusp of the 5th house, especially Aries, inclines towards early children, and Capricorn and Saturn in the 5th house towards late children. But Saturn in Aries inclines towards early children. In this matter, it is necessary to take into account aspects from other planets to the 5th field.
Amount of children: Fertile signs (water signs and Taurus) tend to favor multiple children. Barren signs (Gemini, Virgo, Leo, Capricorn) tend to have few children and/or even one. Planets in the 5th field, aspects of other planets to the elements of the 5th house also affect the number of children. The Sun and Saturn in the 5th house tend to have a small number of children or even one child. Jupiter, Venus and the Moon indicate several children. Especially many children give the influence of Jupiter on the 5th house. The influence of Saturn on the 5th house of the horoscope inclines towards a late child. The influence of Neptune gives a tendency to have adopted children. The same can be said about the cusp of the 5th house in Pisces.
The sign of Capricorn on the cusp of the 5th field gives indications of a late child and, as a rule, one. The presence of Aries, Libra, Sagittarius, Aquarius on the cusp of the 5th house does not have any effect on the number of children.
Number of children:
Jupiter increases the number of children in the 5th field, its aspects to the ruler of the 5th house or planets of the 5th field increase the number of children. Tense aspects of Jupiter give more children than harmonious ones. Harmonious aspects give a golden mean.
Absence of children:
The absence of children can be explained by two reasons: childlessness, as according to medical diagnoses, or a lack of desire to continue the family of a domestic, psychological, material nature, etc.
Childlessness:
Childlessness due to infertility is defined as the Formula of infertility according to the Moon and the 4th field. The reluctance to have children is due to the negative influence of Saturn on the 5th field.
Saturn in the 5th house or 5th lord, being severely damaged or damaging the elements of the 5th house, can lead to severe unwillingness to have children or their absence. Exception: Jupiter influences Saturn. Jupiter striking Saturn - the element of the 5th field can give two children, a harmonious aspect with Jupiter - one child.
S.A. Vronsky "Classical Astrology", Volume 3:
"Controller of the 5th field in other fields:
In the 1st house - a favorable indicator for children who should receive a good education and upbringing;
in the 2nd house - one of the indications for children in later years;
in the 3rd house - one of the indications of many children in later years;
in the 4th house - children often appear in their younger years and bring joy and happiness to their mother;
in the 5th house is a good position for the children of the native. In youth they bring many worries, but in adulthood they are a source of joy;
in the 6th house - the ruler draws the attention of parents to the health of children (but one cannot draw a conclusion about the health of the child without giving an assessment to the significators of the child's house and their aspects);
in the 7th house - children in most cases appear in adulthood, but as a rule they are happy;
in the 8th house - children are possible in later years, the ruler of the 5th house in the 8th house warns parents about the threat to the child, but such a conclusion can only be made after analyzing many other indicators! This position of the ruler should be regarded as a timely warning, which allows you to take the necessary and timely compensatory measures, having previously analyzed the child's card;
in the 9th house - children appear at a young age;
in the 10th house - children can appear at a very young age. Children can expect success in prof. activities, they can become famous;
in the 11th house - children usually appear at a young age and their life is usually happy;
in the 12th house - children are born in youth, but the fate of children can be overshadowed by the fault of the parents, this situation warns of the child's poor health during childhood. But the card of the child will give a more complete picture of his health.
Note: When using information about the position of the rulers of the 5th house in houses, one should not forget that this information is additional, it is important, but part of other information, such as:
1. The essential power of the significators of the houses of the child.
2. The essential power of the symbolic significators of the houses of the child.
3. defeats of the mentioned significators from malefic planets (Saturn, Mars).
4. aspect of the significators of the houses of the child by the elements of the 8th house and or the Black Moon.
5. it is necessary to take into account the number of tense home interactions between the significators of the houses of the child and the elements of the 8th house, including the derivative 8th house of the child (5 or 11)
astrologer Tatyana Kurchina
In one of my articles, I have already considered such an important issue as having many children and childlessness from the point of view of astrology. But that article was more about the planets in the Fifth House, which is traditionally responsible for offspring. And yesterday a friend asked me to look at her map for the number of children. I thought that it was probably some kind of sign, and it would be nice to continue considering this issue, but with other astrological methods. Moreover, very often women who have certain problems with either conceiving or bearing a child apply, so there is already enough experience and a statistical base.
So, in order to make a correct judgment regarding a person having many children or childlessness, we need to consider his Fifth House, namely: the sign in which the cusp of this house is located, the Ruler of this house, its aspects, position in the house and so on. In traditional astrology, there is a division into the so-called fertile and barren signs. All signs of the water trine are fertile, that is, Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces, as well as the earth sign - Taurus. Gemini, Leo and Virgo are barren. All others are considered neutral. It is believed that the fact that the cusp of the Fifth House and the Ruler of this house fall into fertile signs is one of the indications of fertility. However, not everything is so simple. The ruling planet of the Fifth house can be seriously affected, both by falling into an unfavorable house, and by a tense aspect from Saturn, Uranus or Pluto. As for Neptune, they cannot say for sure, according to my statistics, it is these three planets that cause the maximum damage.
The favorable aspect of the Ruler of the Fifth House with Jupiter increases the number of possible children. This is due to the nature of Jupiter - the planet of expansion, which always increases what it comes into contact with. In addition to the Fifth House, one should always evaluate the position of the Moon in the sign. If she is in a fertile sign, this is also a strong indication of a sufficient number of children.
It is highly undesirable for the Ruler of the Fifth House to be burned or retrograde. Retrograde is always an accidental disadvantage for the planet, but I liked how the famous astrologer Konstantin Daragan explained the meaning of retrograde in the context of the Fifth House. Retrograde is known to be associated with return. The root itself "retro" in Latin means "back". So Daragan believes that retrograde indicates either an abortion, or a miscarriage, or other reasons for terminating a pregnancy. If we consider this position from a philosophical point of view, then the child returns to where he came from - to heaven.
Ruler of the Fifth House in the Eighth or Twelfth are bad indicators for a child. Both of these houses are associated with hardships, difficulties. Ruler of the Fifth in the Twelfth can give problems with conception or gestation. A woman contacted me for a consultation, who has such an arrangement of the planet: she had several miscarriages, she even tried IVF (In Vitro Fertilization), but, unfortunately, all attempts were in vain. Judging by the directions, she will still have a child, but only in a few years.
Here is another example. I propose to fully consider the girl’s card in order to determine whether she will have children, and if so, how many - many or few !? At the request of the girl, I expose only the card itself, without indicating her birth data.
So, the Ruler of the Fifth House is in a fertile sign - Scorpio, but the junior ruler Mars is located in the Eighth House in Aquarius, in the first degree, plus everything else in the mine, which is a strong accidental disadvantage. Senior ruler - Pluto, retrograde, is in a sign of exile, and has a tense aspect with Venus from the Sixth House.
For the sake of completeness, consider another co-ruler of the Fifth House - Jupiter. It is retrograde again, at zero degrees, in the Twelfth House. The Moon is in a fertility-neutral sign, Aries, and has a trine with Jupiter, albeit divergent.
Based on such an analysis, we can definitely say that the topic of children, pregnancy for a person will be quite painful. Miscarriages are not excluded. But the house cusp itself is in a fertile sign and the Moon is in aspect to Jupiter. Roughly speaking, not all is lost. From what I know, the woman gave birth to only one child. She repeatedly had miscarriages and abortions, which were extremely detrimental to her mental health.
Of course, there are other criteria by which the number of children can be determined, these are the Lots of the first child, the second child, etc. The position of the fictitious planets in the Fifth House also provides a wealth of information on this topic. Therefore, considering only (!) The fifth house is incorrect. One thing torn out of the chart will not bring much information and benefit to the interpreter, since any natal chart always has a bunch of aspects in which it is not surprising to get confused, it is for a competent judgment that an experienced astrologer is needed.
With love,
Your Sofia
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