Ekaterina Vasca: “When they call me a psychic, it only makes me smile.” Why are we in such a state at all? I often hear from older people: “All these your stresses and depressions are fictions.

12.06.2019

Ekaterina Borisova is a psychic with a kind heart and a broad soul. The participants of the "Battle" and viewers immediately fell in love with her. Our heroine was even nicknamed Baba Katya. Do you want to know how her life was before the project? How can I get an appointment with her? You will find all the necessary information in the article.

Biography: childhood

Borisova Ekaterina was born on February 22, 1962 in Uzbekistan. Her father was in the military, so the family often had to move from place to place. The Borisovs managed to live in Odessa and Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk. They finally settled in Bryansk. There, the girl continued her studies in high school. She had many friends and girlfriends.

Adulthood

In 1984 she graduated from the Art and Theater School. Grekov (Odessa). Then Ekaterina Borisova got a job at the Bryansk Drama Theater.

Our heroine is a creative and comprehensively developed personality. A woman writes poetry, draws pictures and creates beautiful things with her own hands.

She discovered extraordinary abilities in herself as a teenager. Catherine began to hear the voices of dead people and see ghosts. Soon the girl realized that she could heal the sick. Borisova is on the side of the forces of light.

Catherine never married. She has no children. She considers this a kind of retribution for her gift.

Ekaterina Borisova: "The Battle of Psychics"

In Bryansk, our heroine has established herself as a healer and a person who can see the past, present and future. On the advice of friends and relatives, Baba Katya went to the casting of the 15th season of the Battle of Psychics (TNT). At the entrance to the building crowded people dressed in furs, leather and overalls. Among them were shamans and witches with amulets in the form of skulls. Against the background of these people, Ekaterina Borisova seemed like a gray mouse. But the main thing is not the "wrapper", but the "content".

The task related to the search for a person in the trunk, Baba Katya did not pass. However, she accurately described the girl who died in the fire. Slavic witch told the story of her life and death. This sweet and modest woman conquered the film crew of the Battle of Psychics. As a result, she became one of the 12 participants in the show.

Passing some tests

  • 2nd issue. Two friends approached the editor of the program. They provided a photograph showing one of them being embraced by black arms. The girls wanted to find out - is it a ghost or a defect in the film? Ekaterina Borisova was the first to start testing. The psychic could not explain what is shown in the photo. But Baba Katya identified the girl who is hugged by incomprehensible hands in the picture.
  • 3rd edition. The first task was as follows: out of 6 strangers in masks, find a girl from a simple family. All the rest are representatives of high society. Baba Katya made the right choice. In addition, she told the beauties about their future fate. On the second test, psychics encountered a demon-possessed girl. Ekaterina lit the fire and began to read information from the guest. A few minutes later, Borisova delivered her "verdict" - the girl has no obsession.

  • 4th issue . The first plot took place on the set of the Chernobyl series. On the vast territory of an abandoned factory, psychics had to find a hidden guy in 10 minutes. Baba Katya successfully coped with the task. She performed well in the second test as well. The Slavic witch called the cause of the death of a young motorcyclist.
  • 5th edition. The participants of the “Battle of Psychics 15” understood the reasons for the death of the leader of the Gaza Strip group, Yuri Khoi. Borisova spoke about what kind of person he was. The task for the second test is to explain the cause of death of 7 people from the Streltsov family. Baba Katya is a little confused. But among the 8 submitted photographs, she managed to find a picture that depicts a living person.
  • 6th edition. Borisova successfully completed the first test. Among the 6 girls, she found the one who turned to love magic. To complete the second task, the psychics went to the cemetery. Baba Katya was able to name the gender, age of the deceased guy, as well as describe his appearance and character traits. She confidently declared - he was killed.
  • 7th issue. This time, the psychics had to investigate the mystery of Irina's death and all participants in the 15th season in dark masks were brought to the mansion where the actor lived with his wife. Baba Katya immediately went to Irina's room. She told a lot about the mistress of the house herself and her relationship with her husband. The second test took place already in the studio of the program. Psychics had to tell about the deceased person, reading information from his things. Baba Katya made a serious mistake for the first time in her participation in the show. She named everything wrong.

Final "Battle of psychics"

For several months, the participants of the show proved to the whole country that they have paranormal abilities. On December 20, 2014, the 14th edition of the program was released. There were four participants in the final: Ekaterina Borisova, Tanya Larina, Arseniy Karadzha and, of course, Julia Wang.

A week later, the results of the 15th season were summed up. Julia Wang is the winner. Thousands of fans throughout Russia voted for her. As for Ekaterina Borisova, she got 3rd place. Our heroine was not upset at all. After all, during her participation in the "Battle" she gained all-Russian fame and audience love.

Ekaterina Borisova: reviews of her work

After participating in the program "The Battle of Psychics", our heroine was literally inundated with letters and calls asking for help. Ekaterina Borisova tries to answer each person. How to get an appointment with her? Slavic witch regularly holds seminars and consultations in Bryansk. For a personal meeting, you need to contact its administrator by phone: 8-985-129-75-84.

Clients who turned to her for help were satisfied with the result. Baba Katya shows hospitality and cordiality to every visitor.

There are also negative reviews about her work, but they are presented in negligible quantities. Usually, the authors of sharp and negative comments are envious, ill-wishers and competitors of Catherine.

Conclusion

We talked about where the Slavic witch was born and studied. Now you know when Baba Katya discovered her extraordinary abilities. We wish this wonderful woman happiness and long life!

Looking at this stylish feminine blonde, it is hard to imagine that almost every day she communicates with people who have committed brutal murders or rapes. She talks face to face with serial maniacs, stories about which chill the blood. Meet: this is Ekaterina Viktorovna Vasca, a psychologist who has more than 1,500 forensic examinations on her account, which played a role in solving especially serious crimes.

Dossier :
Ekaterina Viktorovna Vaske
Doctor of Psychology, Candidate of Philosophical Sciences, Professor of Nizhny Novgorod State University named after N.I. Lobachevsky, Head of the Center for Legal Psychology and Forensic Psychological Expertise, Scientific Consultant of the Investigation Department of the Investigative Committee of Russia for the Nizhny Novgorod Region.
Author of more than 100 scientific papers in the field of legal and forensic psychology. The practical manuals developed by her have been introduced and are actively used in the practical activities of the investigative bodies of the Russian Federation. As a practicing specialist (profiler, expert, consultant) Vasca E.V. constantly provides assistance to law enforcement officers in the disclosure and investigation of especially serious crimes in different regions of Russia. Ekaterina Viktorovna has been repeatedly awarded medals "For Assistance" by the heads of the power structures of the Russian Federation, has many thanks and diplomas for her help in solving and investigating crimes, for her significant contribution to the training and professional development of investigators.

"Difficult teenagers were drawn to me"

Ekaterina Viktorovna, tell us about your professional path?

I started as a vocational consultant at the Gorky City Youth Career Guidance Center, where schoolchildren came in order to understand where they should go to study and work. I came to this Center with a pedagogical education, like many of my colleagues. I really liked working at the Career Guidance Center, so I received a psychological education and became a psychologist. Since I always had to earn my own “bread” (I don’t even remember when I had only one job without “part-time jobs”), I combined the work of a “coming psychologist” in schools. There were full-time psychologists, of course, who performed their functions. But I was asked to work exclusively with difficult teenagers, which I did.

As I remember now, in one of the schools I received in the director's office in the evening, where they gave me a separate closet, gave me the key to the office, where I came several times a week by appointment. I worked with difficult teenagers and their parents, helped to resolve various conflicts, helped to restore relationships with teenagers to parents, teachers ...

In general, I have never worked with gifted children, and I never had such a desire. Somehow I immediately started with “difficult”. Maybe because they were drawn to me. I had to work a lot, it was difficult, but after a few years I gained invaluable, in my opinion, experience, as it was then called, a “practical psychologist”. By the way, from those ancient times to the present, despite my academic degrees and titles, I have not left the practice for a single day.

Then I decided to try my hand at medical psychology and came to a psycho-neurological clinic, where after a few months, having settled into a new path, I “went” to forensic examination and became an expert psychologist. I worked there for a little less than 10 years. During this time, she wrote a Ph.D. thesis in philosophy, which was again devoted to difficult teenagers - "Typology of subjects of deviant behavior." My choice was natural - when I started working as an expert psychologist, a huge number of teenagers who committed offenses passed through "my hands". It was then, in 1995, from the array of these “my” teenage delinquents, a completely new category of teenagers for that time emerged (I called them “elite difficult”) - juvenile delinquents from prosperous families whose parents are law-abiding, socially positive citizens: teachers , engineers, business leaders ... And their child grows up to be a criminal. Why is this happening? What is the reason? Why do parents who do their best to instill universal human values ​​in their children, children commit grave and especially grave crimes? Why is this happening in our country? I was looking for answers to these questions while working on my dissertation.

I had to work very hard as an expert psychologist, over time - only with the most difficult cases. Of course, I combined my practical activities as an expert psychologist with research, and then with teaching - in 1999 I developed the author's course on a comprehensive forensic psychological and psychiatric examination, which since that time I have been teaching to university students. In 2001, I finally left the psycho-neurological hospital, became an assistant professor at the department, where I still work, but already as a professor. It so happened that my doctoral dissertation was also devoted to adolescents - the psychology of interrogation of juvenile delinquents and victims of sexual violence. But, I still consider expert activity to be my life’s work, and I simply cannot live without practice, I continue to conduct expert examinations, but now in civil proceedings, and if in criminal proceedings, then for other regions of Russia.

"You can't learn to diagnose lies on the Internet"

During the interrogation, the investigator "punches" the criminal, but what is the name of what you are doing?

My task is to get the most complete and sincere information from the person who is in front of me in a given situation. This can be very difficult to do even with children. For example, a child would like to tell everything, but closes, it is not possible to “pick up the key to him”, and it is necessary to receive information from him. That's when you need to make sure that the child becomes psychologically comfortable, so that he wants to tell everything and did it sincerely. In general, the activities of a psychologist in the criminal process are extensive - from drawing up a psychological portrait of an unknown criminal (the so-called "criminal profiling") to psychological support for investigative measures.

A lot of “useful information” is circulating on social networks on how to figure out a person, understand what he is thinking, and figure out a liar. There are even courses that teach it. Does it have anything to do with your activities?

- My professional activity is very diverse, but part of it is related to profiling.

REFERENCE
Profiling
(from the English "profile" - profile) is a set of psychological methods for assessing and predicting human behavior based on his non-verbal and verbal behavior.
Initially, the term "profiling" (profiling) was used in the context of compiling a search psychological portrait (profile) of an unknown person in the footprints at the crime scene.
The training and use of specialist profilers to identify potentially dangerous passengers (terrorists, brawlers, etc.) was first implemented in Israel by the El Al airline. The use of profiling has contributed to El Al being one of the safest airlines in the world.
Currently, profiling is used to assess the reliability of information during personnel checks, internal investigations and in criminal proceedings.

In general, the peak of the "fashion" for profiling came in 2011, after the release of the TV series "Lie to me". Now everyone “knows” that if the interlocutor scratched his nose - he is lying, touched his forehead - he thought, stroked his thigh - he is erotically tuned. Of course, such conclusions are ridiculous, only professionals can actually competently conduct a visual diagnosis of a lie, as the consultant of the film, the author of many books on the diagnosis of lies, Paul Ekman, and the author of the series, Samuel Baum, say. If it were that simple, we would all know each other. In fact, it is very difficult, and a true professional always doubts. For example, knowledge, experience, professional intuition and certain personality traits together give me the opportunity in a certain situation to say: "It's like this and nothing else." But only after a rigorous analysis and careful "weighing" of all the facts, when all the links line up in the head and a mosaic is formed. And it may not take shape right away. In general, this is called "non-instrumental lie detection", when the combination of certain signals reveals signs of hidden circumstances, intentional and unintentional distortions of the events that actually occurred.

But even good knowledge of such diagnostics is by no means a panacea for deceit - the interlocutor can skillfully manipulate you, staging certain manifestations.

Despite the fashion for the word “profiler” and the “hype” of profiling itself on the Internet, there are only a few professionals in this area. In the same way, the topic of a “magic pill” for detecting lies in the form of a “lie detector - a polygraph” continues to be exaggerated on the Web. It must be remembered that the main thing is the human factor, because behind any activity there is a person. I always tell my students: “Do not consider the person in front of you to be more stupid than yourself. If you think he's smarter than you, you're more likely to win." To understand how sincere a person is with you, you need to win him over, make the environment as comfortable as possible for him. This is the most difficult thing - to "reveal" a person in a situation of communication. There are a lot of subtleties, and visual diagnostics alone, especially by mimic manifestations, of course, is not enough. Therefore, if you decide to go to profiler courses, then carefully study the information about them. And do not believe all the reviews on the Internet. In our troubled times, as always during a crisis, various odious figures emerge. Therefore, you need to be especially careful not to fall into a stupid story or, worse, into some kind of sect. As you know, a person can achieve a lot on his own and for this it is not at all necessary to be a magician or wizard. All sorts of legends are told about me, calling me a psychic, but all this only causes a smile.

"Help If You Can"

Okay, not psychic. But, probably, you still have a certain gift, talent?

- We all have innate qualities, genetically determined features. And I am no exception.

My dad was very good at hypnosis, was a strong hypnotist and generally a very strong personality. I hope that a certain set of personality traits was transferred to me from him.

From the age of ten I saw his hypnosis sessions, talked with people whom he helped to cope with various ailments, as I then believed, sometimes even "assisted" to him. Even then I understood what the power of personality is. Therefore, when Kashpirovsky, Chumak, and then other healers, magicians appeared, it was not difficult for me to understand where the fraud was and where the professionals were. But genes are not everything, the role of upbringing cannot be underestimated. With me, my father used harsh methods of education, he even tried to teach me boxing. Whether it was right is another question, but I became independent and persistent in achieving the goal. And principled. To lie once and for all weaned at an early age.

Here you say - "principled". What is your main principle?

"Cover the offender with a glass"

In ordinary life, we are also often faced with such unpleasant situations when, for nothing, for nothing, you can get a portion of negativity in your address. Can you tell me what to do?

If a person is haunted by some situation, or an unpleasant person does not get out of his head, you can use one proven method. Imagine that you covered your abuser with an upturned glass. He screams inside the glass, knocks on it with his fists, and this makes you smile, which means you have thrown off the negative. Just don't overdo it - you don't have to imagine that he broke his head into blood.

And remember: a strong person will not scream and insult. The one who cannot constructively convey information turns to crying.

Raising your voice in a conflict situation is a sign of weakness. Based on this, we must draw conclusions, build our attitude to what is happening. Of course, it is very unpleasant if you are shouted at on the street, in a store. What to do? Just silently wish him happiness, health and move on. Who knows what happened to him? We can all show weakness. Yes, and in a permanent state of stress, many are now.

Why are we in such a state at all? I often hear from older people: "All your stresses and depressions are fiction. We didn't have anything like that." Why didn't they have it, but we do?

They lived in another country. There were absolutely clear guidelines of society, and people lived in accordance with these guidelines. They believed in the good, they knew that they had a strong country, they knew what they were fighting for and that they were under the full protection of the state. People were motivated by a common idea, one global goal. One BAM was worth something! Then we suddenly found ourselves in another country, old values ​​were destroyed, and new ones were not built. Embedding capitalist values ​​in our mentality just like that did not work right away. More than one generation needs to pass for these values ​​to take root. The simplest example: in America and Europe, when a child turns 18, he is sent to “free swimming”. His parents gave him what they could, then he “rows” himself. Now he comes to his parents only by call and invitation. Let's take our mentality: "that mother who didn't bring the child to pension is bad". The umbilical cord is as strong as a rope. Step to the left, step to the right - "execution". Why didn't you tell your mom?

The stratification of our society, in which there is practically no middle class, also has a huge psycho-traumatic effect on the emotional state of people. By the nature of my professional activity, I have to see different categories of citizens - both quite wealthy and those living below the poverty line. Many and really hungry children, despite our very non-hungry time. It is clear that the position of the Sharikovs, who propose to take away and divide everything, is not an option, but such a level of social stratification cannot but affect the psyche of people, and therefore, their behavior both in the family and in society.

Another reason for constant stress is the media. From the TV screens endless political programs are rushing, accompanied by conflicts and public manifestations of destructive emotions; shows with clarification of family relationships, fights and insults on the air; serials teeming with blood, violence and propaganda of a criminal lifestyle (being a bandit is an honor, being a prostitute is wonderful); various kinds of programs about the life of "stars" and oligarchs... All this together is a powerful psycho-traumatic factor for the psyche of people who, when constantly viewing such products, naturally have certain emotions, usually destructive ones. It is time for the media to turn around one hundred and eighty degrees, to show incomparably more educational, educational, life-affirming programs that children and adolescents could become viewers of.

"Respect Teen"

It turns out interesting. Under the close attention of moms and dads, when "the umbilical cord is like a rope", criminals still grow up. And parents grab their heads: "Where did I overlook? What did I do wrong?"

Several categories of such families can be identified. For example, families for whom the level of material security allows to enroll a child, conditionally, in ten sections, to teach five languages. They want to raise a superman, forgetting that this is a living little man. He just wants to lie down, think, hug his mother. And his head cannot take in so much information. Parents say: “When he is hooligan, he has everything scheduled by the minute!”. But this cannot go on indefinitely, the child needs to "breathe". And this “exhalation” can be completely unexpected for parents. The second option is that he will simply turn into a small robot, which will also provoke the emergence of destructive feelings in the child, which will later pour out on parents, including.

The second category - parents simply do not notice what is happening to the child. They don’t notice that he is deceiving them, because they endlessly believe him and, out of the best of intentions, forgive everything. Very often, powerful psychological defenses of such mothers prevent them from understanding and accepting reality. “This cannot be, because it can never be,” thinks a mother who does not believe that her daughter is sexually active at the age of 13. “This can't be! I raised her, I'm a teacher. Does that mean I'm a bad teacher? No, I raised her correctly, because I am a good teacher! Such unconscious mechanisms (psychological defenses) are built in the head of this mother like a palisade, not letting the true information to the level of consciousness, not allowing to see the real situation. And even more so not allowing to take it for granted. “My child is telling the truth, and they are all lying!” the mother convinces herself without taking any constructive action.

The child quickly understands all this, continues to deceive the mother, and then very quickly learns to manipulate her.

In the future, the child has a feeling of complete impunity, on the one hand, and an understanding of absolute maternal protection in any situation, on the other. Such a mother becomes co-dependent on her child if he takes the path of crime, alcohol, drugs.

The third category - parents simply cannot resist the influence of society. With the onset of adolescence, the behavior of a teenager finds expressions typical of this period of reaction. For example, the reaction of emancipation is a protest against adults. Yesterday's child, who agreed with his mother in everything, suddenly says that she is wrong, does not know, does not understand. And everyone knows and understands the guys in the yard. Parents often misperceive such manifestations in their child - now a teenager - as impudent and spoiled. In fact, the teenager began to feel like a person, and he tries his best to protect his personal space. And this is a natural manifestation of the process of growing up, a natural transition to the next age stage, to the next age period. Just at this time, the child needs to be supported, showing him acceptance of him as a person. Severe authoritarian pressure on him, bans on the Internet and deprivation of a smartphone - does not give rise to anything in a teenager except destructiveness, which will be expressed in reactions of active or passive protest, up to suicide attempts, joining occult organizations, extremist groups or "death groups". If you feel that you cannot find a common language with your child, contact a specialist. You feel that you are losing touch with your child, his academic performance has decreased, he smells of cigarettes, he hides when he speaks on the phone, hides new acquaintances from you, encrypts their names - it's time to sound the alarm. But you do not need to lead the child to healers or sorcerers, go to a specialist. Preventing and avoiding is always easier than overcoming!

Many dangers await the child on the Internet, in social networks in particular. Do parents have the right to check the correspondence of their daughter or son? After all, if a child finds out about this, the reaction can be terrible.

I am convinced that they not only have the right, but should do it. The usefulness of the Internet as an information space and a tool for gaining knowledge cannot be underestimated. But it also poses a great danger. We cannot completely, and even more so, by force, protect the child from the World Wide Web - parents take away the phone from their son, at school during the break he goes online from a friend's smartphone.

My conclusion is simple: parents should be informed about the interests of their child and about his pastime, including on the Internet. Moreover, they are obliged to do this, because their child is a minor, and they, respectively, are his legal representatives.

Having the information to keep your child safe and spying on them are very different things. Peeping through the keyhole is ugly, and to talk about the fact that a mother cannot take a glimpse of her daughter's correspondence, in my opinion, is hypocrisy. Another thing is that you must respect yourself and respect the child, without plunging, of course, into his intimate correspondence.

For example, you see that a girl shares her feelings with a friend, talks about how she likes a boy ... You don’t need to delve into reading such correspondence if there is no reason to sound the alarm. But, if in correspondence with a friend-girlfriend your child talks about the method of suicide, appoints the time and place of its commission ... Then how? In this case, sanctimonious "delicacy" can cost a life. Therefore, parents should know what websites their child visits. Maybe he frequents porn sites or studies Satanism. This, of course, does not imply further total surveillance of the child, and even more so, voicing what he saw or punishing him for it.

But parents have to monitor the situation. At the same time, I absolutely do not share the opinions of psychologists who advise parents to create their own page on the Internet under an assumed name and write to their child from it, promote some truths and learn his secrets. I believe that such methods are at least anti-pedagogical - parents, communicating with their child every day, deceive him, acting simultaneously in two guises. “Do to a person the way you want to be treated to you” is a common truth known to everyone. If you lie to a child, do not respect him, he will intuitively understand this, and then he will respond in kind.

By the way, is it possible to consider the interest that teenagers have for porn sites as normal?

The increased interest of the child in a particular porn product should alert parents. You need to talk to the child. If a child becomes actively interested in porn sites, he needs to be explained what is “good” and what is “bad”. If you can't do it yourself, take your child to a specialist, psychologist or sexologist. Prohibitions are meaningless, they will cause a backlash, making the child even more interested - as you know, "forbidden fruit is sweet." It is necessary to explain to the child what love is and it is wonderful when such a feeling arises between a boy and a girl. It should be romantic, tender. And pornography has nothing to do with either feelings or love, it is a transition to the animal level.

In general, with a child - and even more so with a teenager - you need to negotiate. Bans alone won't do much. If you want to grow a Personality, from a very early age, the child must understand and feel that he is a person, that he is loved, his opinion is taken into account. But he must also know the word “no”, understand that he has duties that must be fulfilled. In general, life itself continues to prove that Good always wins. Good is creation, which means improvement, the path to which is laid in childhood.

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