Then it all subsided - in part, I think, the authorities pressed down during the general curtailment of democratic freedoms, in part the hostility switched to other ethnic groups, in part the shock from the collapse of the USSR subsided. Now all this is getting back a little, and it's clear why.
The Orthodox Church is perceived as the core national identity, the only institution that has existed continuously all the time of our national history. Yes, Christ created the Church, mainly, not for this. But it’s so intertwined in history - so that people, not only unchurched, but even non-believers, tend to perceive Orthodox Church as one's own, national, and attacks on it - as a humiliation of one's national feeling. Moreover, for the attackers themselves, hostility towards the Church is also connected precisely with its role as a marker of the national identity of “this country”. Seeing attacks on national community, people expect to see on the other side also a national community - and here Gelman and Shenderovich helpfully appear, indicating what kind of community it is.
However, such a reflex reaction is erroneous. First of all, unlike the “progressive public”, which we can define through a certain set of ideas and antipathies, “Jews” are simply not a political community with common beliefs. vision, goals and intentions. For every liberal Shenderovich, there is an anti-liberal Wasserman. Jews are people Jewish roots, people who consider themselves Jews, people who are considered Jews by those around them - can be sharply hostile to Orthodoxy, can be zealous Orthodox, can be ardent patriots of Russia, can be supporters of all kinds of dismemberment and de-sovereignization, can be fools, can be wise people- in general, like everyone else. To say “Jews want...” “Jews are trying to....” “Jews have arranged...” is simply meaningless.
The Jews are not some kind of community acting in solidarity, moreover, controlled from a single center. Not to mention the fact that the World Conspirators could have found some less annoying characters with completely Slavic faces and surnames for the positions of Gelman and Shenderovich. And then, you see, they rule the world, with the help of Selling Podzhidkov (c) and they can’t find a non-Jewish curator, shlimazly. And you still want to say that this is a worldwide conspiracy?
A sharp hostility to the Church and “this country” is generally expressed by a group that Jews, of course, can be a part of - just like they can be a part of other groups, but this group itself is subcultural, partly ideological, not ethnic, the absolute majority of its members - ethnic Russians. To run into the Jews in connection with the activities of this group is completely at the wrong address.
Can nationality a person to be something valuable in the eyes of a Christian? Yes. There are no spherical people in a vacuum; every person has a father and a mother, native language, the culture in which he grew up, and this is an important part of his personality.
For eternity, real, not abstract people will be resurrected, but real people there is nationality. In Paradise, St. Andrei Rublev remains Russian, and Giotto remains Italian.
There are no divisions between saints in paradise; they are in perfect unity. But this is an organic, not a mechanical unity, into which people enter like organs into a body, and not like grains of sand into a heap of sand.
Therefore, we can talk about the Council of Russian Saints, who are with us, Russian Christians, in a special relationship.
Not because the saints of other peoples are less dear to us - but because the Russian saints, by the will of God, have special care for Russia.
Here, on earth, where we are commanded to love our neighbor, who is also not a spherical neighbor in a vacuum - he is a member of our people, an inhabitant of our country, is under the rule of our state, and concern for his welfare implies concern for the state of these large communities.
Prosperity, improvement and security individual people depends on the welfare of the country as a whole. Therefore, of course, a Christian has obligations towards his country and his people. Since the providence of God has made us citizens of Russia, it means that God wants us to serve Him and our neighbor precisely here.
National identity, therefore, is part of God's creation, and love and care for one's fellow citizens is a good and directly commanded deed.
Nationalism initially defines itself as just such love and such care - but very soon it mutates into something else.
It turns out that our people are prevented from living by evil enemies who are responsible for all our troubles, and to love your people means to take up arms against these enemies. Any creative activity it is supposed to be impossible and meaningless until the complete victory over the enemies. Moreover, it soon becomes clear that a significant part of the people of their own nation and even ethnic group are also enemies who sold themselves to the enemy for his dirty handouts.
In Rwanda, where in June 1994 there was known genocide Between the Hutu and Tutsi peoples, the national Hutu poet Simon Bikindi composed the song "Nanga abahutu" ("I hate those Hutus"), in which he expresses extreme indignation at those of his fellow Hutus who do not show due zeal for the massacre of Tutsis.
Here are a couple of lines in a prose translation. “I hate those Hutus, those swaggering Hutu, arrogant ones, who neglect other Hutu, dear comrades! How can you neglect your own? ... I hate them and I will not apologize for it!
If you love your people, you must go and slaughter your neighbor's family, because, as the same poet said, "Tutsi are cruel animals, the most vile hyenas, more cunning than a rhinoceros ..."
There is nothing specifically African here - Croats and Serbs, for example, are undoubtedly European peoples with ancient and highly developed cultures. And the Germans were most cultured people in the world.
Nationalism very quickly turns into a religion of hatred and builds such an image of the nation in which its main symbols and heroes are not its saints, not its poets, not scientists, not artists, but the most gloomy cutthroats that can only be found in national history.
Something human, warm, like national traditions celebrating Christmas or folk songs, which the girls sing on summer evenings, remains outside this nationalism, all its pathos - and it is full of pathos - is the pathos of the struggle against vile enemies and vile traitors who do not want to fight them.
Of course, any nationalist will readily agree with the definition of nationalism as a religion of hatred - in relation to the nationalism of a neighbor.
Neighborhood nationalism is a grievous, vile madness, the embodiment of the worst national qualities neighbor. His heroes are cannibals, his version of history is a collection of ridiculous inventions, his songs are the vile howl of orcs.
But our nationalism is a completely different matter. This is the expression of the will of our people to decent life, which is hindered by insidious enemies. From the outside, however, it is difficult to see the difference.
On the back is written: "I am Russian." Although it would be more accurate - "I am a traitor."
Why is this happening? We humans need to be in communion with our fellow human beings. We are so created. Sin led to the loss of this community, the human race is broken and split; but people have the deepest need for this unity.
The book of the Acts of the Apostles describes a glimpse of paradise in the early Christian community: “The multitude of those who believed had one heart and one soul; and none of his possessions called his own, but they had everything in common” (Acts 4:32).
However, just as marriage is opposed by perversions, just as true joy is opposed by the euphoria of a drug addict, so the unity that the Holy Spirit gives is opposed by the unity that a completely different spirit gives. A person is looking for good things - joy, pleasure, unity - and grabs demonic fakes, because it seems to him that they are closer, more accessible and cheaper.
Man is sinful, and as a unifying and mobilizing force, hatred works better.
People who stand against someone together, hate someone, experience a euphoric feeling of unity. They are together, they are comrades-in-arms, they are brothers. This feeling of brotherhood is bought at the price of hatred for enemies - insidious foreigners, vile foreigners, damned traitors - but it is real.
They are no longer Russians. And never will again.
In reality, however, the brotherhood does not last long - soon the comrades-in-arms may begin to sort things out among themselves - but the ecstasy of unity works for some time.
Building relationships with people, learning to trust and justify trust is difficult. It is a narrow path of effort and disappointment, in oneself and in others, and it takes determination to keep going. Nationalism creates a quick illusion of community - a feeling of brotherhood without the labor that would require the creation of a true brotherhood.
Nationalist marches (of all nations) always gave me the impression of some kind of black mass; then I realized what it was. The column, responding in unison to the rhythmic cries of the leader, really parodies the litany. Only instead of turning to God, there is an appeal to someone else, and instead of invoking mercy - invoking death on certain enemies.
Of course, not every nationalist is Simon Bikindi; it is a spiritual disease that has its stages and affects the organism that has received it to varying degrees. But it leads exactly to what it leads to - in Rwanda, in Yugoslavia, in Nagorno-Karabakh, everywhere.
Hatred is a quick, effective and cheap way to mobilize supporters. Those who resort to it win in the short term, and they are not interested in the long term.
It is difficult to mobilize people for something good; if people rushed to help their neighbor, or at least to improve the territory, with the same enthusiasm as to fight enemies, we would live almost in paradise. But this, alas, is not so.
It is very difficult to induce people to do what you want, to persuade them to stand under your banner, "awakening good feelings" is very difficult. It is much easier to awaken the most murky and bestial instincts. A person is sinful, it is always easy for him to turn into a True Hutu.
The second factor due to which nationalism very quickly mutates from something harmless, like love for national costumes, into a full-fledged religion of hatred is its claim to absolute devotion and obedience. "Nation Above All"; she - or rather, on her behalf - demand to kill and die. This is idolatry; and like all idolatry it destroys the soul. What will you not do for the sake of the nation? What abominable things will you not do?
Can a Christian be a Nationalist? In the early stages, yes - while the demon does not yet require human sacrifices, but slowly and carefully inspires the victim with such a picture of the world in which they will be appropriate and justified.
But sooner or later, a moment comes when a person is required to transgress the commandment, first silently put up with the obvious lawlessness proclaimed and done in the name of the nation, then publicly approve it, then take part in it.
Then he has to choose - between the demands of the word of God and the demands put forward in the name of the nation. There is a gap either with nationalism - no, here this I approve and will not do - either with Christianity.
At the same time, formally, of course, a person can remain a Christian - there, the Croatian Ustashe were extremely pious - but for him the nation is much more important than Christ.
Is there a healthy national feeling? Of course, when we enter an Orthodox church, we join our people in prayer - this is how the Russian people prayed throughout the long centuries of our history, here they found support and consolation, faith and hope, something that filled their lives with meaning.
Moreover, our ancestors in the faith, those who have walked the path of Orthodoxy before us, are here with us and pray for us, in the face of saints, glorified by the Church - or known only in Heaven.
But this experience of belonging to a people is alien to hatred of anyone and does not need enemies; we unite not against anyone, but around Christ. We know that people from all nations are gathered around Him - and we rejoice in this, and prayerfully honor the saints from all corners of the earth.
Then for us, love for the Motherland and our people is manifested in hard work for their good - for the sake of establishing good morals, peace, mutual trust, and most of all - for the eternal salvation of our fellow citizens.
But in hatred for anyone, it cannot manifest itself - hatred brings nothing but destruction, and most of all it destroys those who indulge in it.
As repeated experience shows, nationalism is worst enemy precisely the nation on behalf of which he undertakes to speak. Such are the inevitable fruits of hatred and idolatry.
It hurts my ears when I come across, for example, the word "priest", and this can even be in anti-clerical and anti-religious texts.
It was the priests who raised their religious idea to the rank of "spiritual teaching", shamelessly called themselves priests from the word HOLY, saints, pastors, Patriarchs, double names they invent for themselves, etc.
Supported by Vijayana
Here the problem of the attitude of freethinkers to the language imposed on society is rightly posed. religious organizations in particular the ROC. And since behind the language there are views of the world, the expansion of a religious language expresses the expansion of a particular religion.
And after all, people sincerely believe that the clerics are imposing on society a theophoric language that reflects theistic views of the world. A terrible, chilling picture is a thousand-year-old atheistic civilization, into which clerics fly from Mars and impose their clerical language on it. How to repel such an attack? Come up with your own, non-clerical language. A good idea- because ordinary Russian, like others European languages, incorrigibly clerical. You can't even say "thank you" without calling on the name of God. You can't even look at the calendar without finding "Sunday" there, and the word "godless" has a clearly negative sound - you can lie godlessly, but you can't, for example, be godlessly honest. Worse, the names worn by the fighters against clericalism are - with very rare exceptions - either the names of saints or even biblical characters. That is, the development of a secular language is truly "hell's work." What, "hell" is also a religious term? Well, I don’t know, in general, there will be big difficulties. Why will they be so big? Because Orthodoxy is not engaged in "expansion". It is here at home. It created this civilization and the language we speak. It cannot be said, of course, that the anti-clerical forces have not enriched the Russian language in any way - there are many abbreviations, VChK, GPU, NKVD, ChSIR, ChSVN, etc. some new terms - "dispossessed", "liquidation", in more humane years - "deficiency", many terms were enriched with new meanings - "birch", "thrown away", "import", but these linguistic additions turned out to be short-lived and now young people do not even know that a “birch” is a shop, not a tree. Speaking in Russian, we do not impose anything on anyone - we just speak our native language
––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––I left a few answers to him there, I duplicate them here.
Dear Sergey.
Since, due to some circumstances, I do not always have the opportunity to view in detail the feed of friends, of which you are one of me, I missed this post of yours.
I missed vidjnana's post for the same reason.
Well, I will have to briefly and belatedly answer you.
Vidjnana approached the topic of church terms, in my opinion, too seriously.
That my post is just, excuse me, irony (sad) over the fact that the priests arbitrarily appropriated and religious idea highest epithets: Holy Scriptures, Spiritual Teaching(absolute and complete usurpation of the term), His Holiness, Patriarch, pastor.
Sergey.
You are lying again:
Orthodoxy is not engaged in "expansion". It is here at home.
What does "it's at home" mean?
Is this our religion?
This is overseas, imported, imported.
The princes of Kyiv had to introduce monotheism, paganism somehow helped to build a "vertical of power" badly.
So they decided, following the example of their neighbors, to introduce their one god for the little people.
Those neighbors found out about this and began to offer their gods - Catholics, Mohammedans, and even the Jewish god was offered, I don’t know for sure about Buddha.
They almost accepted the Mohammedan, but rejected it - they had a ban on vagrantism.
They could have taken a god from the German language, the Catholic one - they offered, but the Byzantine one was more liked by the splendor of the rites.
The people of the overseas god were reluctantly accepted, in some places that god was imposed with a sword, in Novgorod the uncle of the prince of Kyiv Volodymyr Dobrynya decided a lot of people, and in other places the same thing happened.
Well, okay, they forced people to believe.
And the princes themselves appreciated that with God alone, for sins and disobedience to the authorities punishing, perhaps it would be better to keep little people in a strong hand.
Power over the mortal body of your slave is not all power, but also to take his soul in full - this will be complete power over him.
But here is what a strange misfortune happened ...
They believed like that for 6.5 centuries, everything seems to be fine, now we have God, people pray to him and pray to him.
So you see, they don't pray like that!
We must be baptized, it turns out, with three fingers !!!
And they are two!
Six and a half centuries did not do that!!
Nightmare!!!
But how many people were put to death for this "wrong" faith... yes, little people are okay - they still give birth... what to do now!?..
But what to do ... it is clear that - we will carry out the reform, we will change the rites!
There will be dissenters again - and we will lock them up in log cabins, and we will burn them alive!
And some of them are completely fanatics - they will close themselves and burn themselves alive!
So I’m wondering: it turns out that true Orthodoxy is not what Volodymyr the Baptist, Volodymyr the Holy 1000 years ago brought us from across the sea?
What is the correct faith?
The one to which he forced, for which he was made a saint, and in which they believed for 6.5 centuries?
Or the one that became as a result of Nikon's reforms, and in which we believe less, only 3.5 centuries?
Please explain to me illiterate.
It cannot be said, of course, that the anti-clerical forces have not enriched the Russian language in any way - there are many abbreviations, VChK, GPU, NKVD, ChSIR, ChSVN, etc. some new terms - "dispossessed", "liquidation", in more humane years - "deficiency", many terms were enriched with new meanings - "birch", "thrown away", "import", but these linguistic additions turned out to be short-lived and now young people do not even know that a “birch” is a shop, not a tree. Speaking in Russian, we do not impose anything on anyone - we just speak our native language.
This approach is known to me, for example, from communication with Nicholas the Comforter ycnokoutellb
.
Divide all of humanity into two unequal parts: those who are part of your confession, and everyone else.
And then, for example, like this: pedophile priests are among the Catholics, the Cheka is among the Bolsheviks, and so on.
About the Bolsheviks - here in general the topic is interesting.
For fraternization between the church and "demons", see here http://30-70.ru/cerkov_i_generalisimus.php
And why shouldn't they be friends?
The ideologies are similar (some lead to a “bright future”, others to the Kingdom of God), the goals are also the convenience of managing people.
– * –
Bolsheviks are the same
from the communist idea
created a religious idea
from their leaders - messiahs and Saviors,
with the saints with their own,
with their relics in the mausoleums,
with the bloody inquisition,
almost like in the Middle Ages.
With "bibles" - leaders "works",
where should everyone get quotes from -
in the dissertation, what
in newspaper articles
in slogans on the walls,
on demonstrations in appeals.
– * –
When they say about the Bolsheviks,
that atheists, they say, they -
so this is not true.
The fight against religion for them -
this is the removal of a competitor, only.
– * –
The Bolsheviks, in essence, in their own way -
the same priests were
with the same methods of "working with the masses",
with rituals and chants.
Everyone lived according to the Newest Testaments,
Well, as now - with the Testaments from God.
– * –
Now the whole country is in relics -
in the Bolshevik
and in religious-Christian.
We honor those and others -
competitors among themselves
down to the seas of folk blood
shed for power over the souls of the people.
Bow down now
before their relics, mummies
like in some Egypt...
One can argue about whether there was an award of the first place at Eurovision Ukrainian singer Jamal with a song about deportation Crimean Tatars in 1944 politically motivated or became an objective assessment of her abilities.
As in the past year, some will say that Tom Neuwirth, better known as Conchita Wurst, got the first place because of his outstanding vocal abilities and unsurpassed artistry, and someone will object that the ideology played a role here, which Western political elites strenuously hammered down the throats of both their fellow citizens and the whole world.
“A person can only be guilty as a result of his personal actions or omissions - and not as a result of belonging to ethnic group»
It seems to me more important is the reaction in our country. Going into social networks, I immediately discover detailed stories about how the Crimean Tatars collaborated with the Nazis and what atrocities they committed - so there is nothing to reproach us with deportation.
Well, alas, people are irrational. People in general tend to economize on mental effort. Most people of all nationalities and political affiliations react quickly, emotionally and completely predictably. This makes them extremely convenient objects of manipulation. Such is human nature.
To stop reacting automatically and start thinking, calculating options, evaluating your possible words and actions in terms of their appropriateness, justification and expediency, you need to make an effort - which we usually tend to avoid.
But it is still necessary to make such an effort. The fate of people who are easy to manipulate is usually unenviable. Unfortunately, they often serve consumable for those who clearly know what they want and how they intend to achieve it.
What are the interests of Russia in relation to the Crimean Tatar people? In order for the Crimean Tatars to be satisfied and loyal citizens of the country, to have a good relationship with its other citizens and all lived together in good neighborliness and peace.
What are the interests of Russia's enemies? It is about making these relations as bad as possible, so that the Crimean Tatars have as many complaints and grievances as possible about their Russian neighbors and Russia as a whole, and so that they can be used more conveniently to destabilize the situation in Crimea.
Who in this situation is helped by those who identify the Crimean Tatars with the collaborators of the war? Only opponents of Russia. Why is this simple consideration so easily overlooked?
For a number of reasons, and largely influenced by one extremely toxic idea, which, however, people often tend to take for granted. This is the idea of collective and inherited guilt - and, by extension, collective and inherited claims.
The monstrous injustice of the deportation of the Crimean Tatars (and it was precisely a monstrous injustice) lies in the collective and indiscriminate punishment.
Justice - and this is its difference from arbitrariness and tyranny - exposes people to persecution only for their personal guilt, established by due litigation.Those who collaborated with Hitler and especially distinguished themselves by atrocities, certainly deserved punishment under the law. Personally. On an individual basis.
To subject any person to punishment because he belongs to the same ethnic group as the criminals is illegal. Well, imagine, you stopped by in Europe, and they grab you - and tied up for the crimes of the Russian mafia.
Collaborators were among many peoples of the USSR, including among the Russians, and it would be more than strange to impute, for example, the actions of the Vlasovites to the Russians.
A person can only be guilty as a result of his personal actions or omissions - and not as a result of belonging to an ethnic group.
It is even worse when guilt is declared to be heritable—when it is believed that living neighbors can make claims about their long-dead compatriots. When people who live quietly in the neighborhood begin to be inspired that between them, it turns out, is not a path that they crossed when visiting each other, but mountains of corpses and rivers of blood, and they are, in fact, eternal enemies with each other. the time of King Peas.
It is precisely this - collective and inherited - responsibility that is assumed in the exchange of accusations "the Russians deported us from our native places and seized our homes" - "this is because the Tatars took the side of Hitler."The guilt for historical atrocities is not collective, they were committed specific people and not peoples. It is also not hereditary - neither you nor your neighbors were in the world when they took place.
It is pointless to pay and repent for them, as well as present bills for payment. We must live based on the interests of the living, and not sacrifice the current generation to the past.
And stirring up mutual historical claims is a tool of absolutely cynical and, of course, extremely malicious people. To be drawn into the exchange of "historical accusations" means to be puppets on their strings.
