What is the difference evening Ivan Urgant from morning or afternoon? Yes, especially nothing! He walks through life with a light, swift gait and is always in good shape. He has a great sense of humor and a sly smile.
Photo: Nikolai Zverkov
Professional with capital letter, an exemplary family man, a person with impeccable reputation. And a very good conversationalist!
INAnya, well, our magazine has its first anniversary.
Yes, ten years.
And you've been with us all these years.
Yes, Vadik, you understand... Listen, here I am trying to remember how it was when everything just started. You came later... I remember something so glossy, so crispy, so pleasant. And you see, somehow everything is quietly: one, the other, the third - now you have already led the OK !.
And I'm doing my second interview with you.
This is the second interview. Years fly by.
The last time we met was when you were just launching your Evening Urgant program, and four and a half years have passed. It was then that you first got your own office.
Yes, you see, the program is still on the air!
It goes on the air, and it is already on such solid rails.
But the question is not in this, there are a lot of rails in the country. The question is where do they lead? Sometimes we start to think: where are we going? Where is the train station? And of course, in our business, in television, it is important who the switchman is. I'm not a switchman in this situation, I'm not even a machinist.
And who are you?
Well, I'm such a conductor, I guess ...
Not a conductor, but a conductor?
Well, what about the conductor? I have never had much confidence in guides, they raise some questions in me. The man who makes your bed is somehow confusing, I would say. And the female conductor, she is good. We are people who have traveled a lot in this country. And in general, perhaps, in our country Railway remains the most important transport, despite the fact that flying drones have already been invented.
So, why do you feel like a conductor?
Somehow, to make it more comfortable, you know? The conductor ... she will spread the seagulls, open the “canned food”, tell you which grandmother is better to buy a pie from. But, if necessary, she can pull the stopcock. If necessary, he will throw coal into the furnace.
Tell me, do you want to become the head of the train? You have to grow somewhere.
Well, what conductor does not want this ... You see, any conductor can marry the head of the train. To be honest, I don’t want to become the head of the entire train (depending on what you mean by train, of course). I don't really like big positions, sonorous ones.
Is it true?
Well, you've never held a big position.
I know one thing: this is a big responsibility, which I was not exactly looking for.
I'm the kind of person I want to be able to be irresponsible to some extent. And the more people depend on me ... And so on our program, a decent number of people already depend on me, and the more they depend on me, the more stressed I am all the time. I feel responsible, I can’t just like that, you know?
At the same time, you want to be irresponsible. When can you afford this very irresponsibility?
Look, I may not arrive on time, I may be late - well, these are tiny little things. In general, I am a rather irresponsible person, but I think about responsibility all the time. In general, the thought that you are good, they are not very soothing, right?
Do you often think about how good you are?
Happens. It all depends on how close to the mirror I get. “My good one,” I say, looking at myself in the mirror.
In the mirror, do you like yourself most often?
In terms of looks, yes. It's rare to find someone as handsome as me. But as for some creative things, I, of course, am a Samoyed. Samoyed, reflective neurasthenic. I worry, I suffer and I doubt.
Recently, director Alexander Molochnikov invited you to star in his debut film "Moscow".
As long as I haven't entered the frame, it doesn't mean anything. But if everything works out, you and I will both be filming there.
Yes, I'm already preparing for my acting debut. By the way, what can you advise me as a professional?
It's great that you came to me for acting advice, because you are a journalist whose insinuating voice penetrated the ears of ninety-eight percent of the talented actors in this country. Of course, you did a few right things and did not make mistakes: firstly, you did not ask your brother for advice, secondly, you did not ask everyone else, and thirdly, you ask me for advice. So, Vadik, remember: nothing is irreparable, you can always seize all copies with the help of the court and burn them if you don’t like it. If anything, we will put pressure on the administrative resource and close the picture.
Before a picture can be closed, it must at least be removed. What advice can you give me anyway?
No acting advice. You should probably listen to what the director tells you. At least that's what I always try to do. I can not boast of such a wide, large acting career for some reasons. One of which: I did not particularly look for this career. But nevertheless, I am waiting for some person who will open this closed, sticky bud in me, and it will bloom. I believe that cinema is very important perfect hit person into a role. It is very important to accurately hit the character, the film, the canvas in which he is located.
Have you had such hits?
It seems to me that people who watch movies and see me on the screen still remember who I am and where I am.
Or maybe you don't need to change anything?
Perhaps not necessary. I don’t have any terrible actor complex, because, honestly, I am very skeptical about this profession. One must love this profession, sacredly love and devote life to it, all of oneself, regardless of success or failure, regardless of demand or lack of demand.
Wait, you're still a professional actor! Graduated theater academy In St. Petersburg.
I love something else. I like it when people laugh in the hall, I like it when people I talk to laugh, I like creating a joyful, favorable atmosphere so that people around me smile more.
But there are situations when, to put it mildly, there is no time for jokes.
There are, of course. I often noticed that a favorite profession is a way out of the very serious condition. If you love this business, then you forget everything, no matter how sad you may be. And in my life there were such situations, and this is not an attempt to prove or disprove the phrase that the stage heals. When you are doing something related to creativity, you can’t stand and think that everything is bad, you can’t think: “Well, how is it, they took the car and took it to the impound lot, and now I have to tell you something.” You forget about it the second you step on stage or on film set.
It’s much worse when you don’t feel like joking, but when you don’t want to laugh.
Agree.
What needs to happen to not be funny at all? I have no answer. You know, for example, once at a wake, a man sitting next to him asked: “Vanya, seriously, why are you so sad ?!” In general, Vadik, we are surrounded by absurdity. Here is the first biggest absurdity: your voice is quieter than mine, twenty times.
So…
And you put the recorder in my mouth, not yourself. This is absurd, you understand? How can this be explained? I can almost feel it already.
People who call themselves psychologists explain the laughter at the funeral as a desire to protect themselves from what is happening. Yes, maybe, if there is an opportunity to defend ourselves, we must defend ourselves by any possible means. I have several comrades who have become for me an example of inexhaustible optimism. And my mom was like that. Mom lived the hardest life, and I couldn’t explain it to myself, and still can’t explain it - I never saw my mother in bad mood. I myself am balancing between monstrous apathy and despondency, into which I can fall in one second, winding up millions of options and schemes in my head, and the only way to get myself out of there is an attempt to look at everything more or less frivolously. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. And I am not the person who will say: “Here comes grief to your family - look at it from a different angle! No, don't be discouraged! Everything is fine!" I'm not like that at all.
Family, as I understand it, is your rear, where you can let go of yourself and relax.
My family... It's not like I came home, put on felt boots, climbed under the stove and asked for cheesecakes to be rolled up for me there. There is no such. I can tell you that in life, in the family, I am practically no different from the person who is on stage or on television. I can't afford much in the family, I can't sit puffed up like a mouse, offended by everyone.
And it seems to me that today you can afford everything - both in life and on the screen.
The screen already enlarges, and if you still pout like a mouse on a rump, then not every diagonal can fit my face. And as for the house... Of course, friends, comrades, family, wife, children, parents - well, for whom is this not rear? Well, Vadik, it's not for you to talk about the opposite. Of course, it is, and this is the most important thing. What could be more important than family, children? Don't know. First, children, family, and only then go gold watches and SUVs.
Vanya, you are, of course, an absolute workaholic. Do you manage to keep track of how the children grow up, or is everything just from the words of your wife Natasha?
Of course, it is embarrassing at the moment when I come home late at night and realize that, for example, I have not seen one of my daughters for the past two days. Because she gets up early for school - I'm still sleeping, and when she comes back - I'm at work. Of course, I miss this communication terribly and I want to change myself. But there are some things that I can change, and there are things that I cannot change. Of course, I follow the development of children not only from the stories of my wife. Somehow we succeed. But I remember the times when there was no work, I still remember this feeling.
I imagine...
I remember it very well... It was sad, Vadik, sad.
I remember when in the late 80s and early 90s my parents had no work, I remember how we lived. On the other hand, you think: well, were we less happy then? No. And I myself did not have a job before arriving in Moscow - here everything has already gone according to the knurled. Today I have already learned to refuse, learned to say no.
You know, the most important thing is not to learn to refuse, and not to worry if you suddenly sit at home and understand that you don’t have to run anywhere. Or, sitting on vacation on some beach, after four days not to think: “My God, I have not produced anything for four days!” This is the most important thing. In general, I really love my job, I can’t do anything about it. Hope it's visible.
It's obvious, Vanya, it's obvious. Listen, you're talking about the beach. And there are so many vacationers around who are watching you. Tell me, is there some corner in the world where you won't be recognized?
Look, this is a matter of TV and the Internet, and I'm far from hiding under a burdock leaf, so long as no one sees me. You know, I console myself with the thought that when I go out in tight swimming trunks on the coast, everyone turns around, not because they saw me on TV, but simply because I am perfectly built. Difficult or complicated?
Complex and complex at the same time.
Yes. Then I see my own shadow and understand that this is not entirely true, that, probably, there are representatives of countries that are part of the First Channel broadcast area somewhere.
Is it important for you that there are narrow swimming trunks?
How can you already ... You know, I still remember - it was my first childhood shock - when on the coast of the Gulf of Finland, where we loved to relax, men appeared with such trunks rolled up in themselves. They have mastered this skill very skillfully. To be honest, I don’t really follow beach fashion, the main thing for me is that it doesn’t fall off. And then, I really like the time of the year when it's sunny and fresh at the same time.
That is not hot.
That is not hot. This is old age, probably Vadik. I think I've already gone through all my heat. I went through all of Israel, America, deserts, fifty-degree heat and everything-everything-everything. We spent the summer with my family in Jurmala - not a single familiar person. Wonderful, as if on an uninhabited island.
Where did you find such a place in Jurmala, so that not a single acquaintance?
It was I who hid in the barn there and covered myself with slate. In general, we go to the Baltic coast, and visit the country house, and in Italy - I love this old Europe. In the summer we have a tradition to go to Stockholm, we try to get out for two or three days.
Together with your wife?
And with his wife, and with children, and with friends. I love Stockholm very much. It would seem, that's what I love the Swedes, then? And somehow I got into them. They are all very nice guys. I love people in general. You know, Vadim, somehow I treat them all well. While me man ski pole will not hit, I treat him well.
And how often do you get hit with a ski pole?
You know, it happens. Well, they're not evil. And I don't hold a grudge against anyone.
Did you acquire armor over time, or has it always been like this?
Well, somewhere I quietly worry, but not in such a way that I can talk about it from the pages of gloss. Therefore, I have a very positive attitude towards people. It's not that I was so withdrawn and found my home in the company of pets.
I think people around you want to be positive.
Maybe. There was, however, a long period that made me nervous. Not annoying, just annoying. When I strangers said "you". And it was incredibly easy to explain: we, the people who appear on television all the time, have become friends and acquaintances for them, there is nothing wrong with that. And now they have already begun to say “you” - apparently, the age has already come.
They say "You, Ivan Andreevich"?
Some yes. Sometimes I even want to tell them: “What are you guys, it’s me, Vanka!”
Do you still feel like Vanka?
Certainly. Well, what kind of Ivan Andreevich am I? Look at me, Vadik.
And you still say old age has come!
Judging by the fact that several generations have already grown up, and I thought that everyone around was my peers ...
Tell me, do you have a close relationship with your father?
With my father we have ... I would say this: a relationship of trust. My closest relationship was with my father when I needed it the most. He was then as old as I am now, and I was fifteen or sixteen. It lasted literally two years, and it was just a fairy tale. We experienced an incredible interest in each other, I ate and gained from him. And now it's November - please, Andrei Lvovich turns sixty, and everyone says: “Come on, look, sixty years old, what a young dad!” And then they said, “Come on, look, thirty-eight years old, what a young dad!” So he will always be a young dad. He gave birth to me when he was eleven years old.
Vanya, I often watch Evening Urgant. It's so nice that you don't forget about Igor and I. Once he even sang a song about us on the air.
I sang the song, yes. You, Vadik, are a man of deep internal culture. You understand that I don’t want to offend you with this song, this is the most important thing. After all, many people think that if I say something funny about them, then I definitely want to prick them, pry them, hurt them more. But that's not the case at all.
And what a wonderful story it was with Bezrukov's marriage! Even people later wrote to me that Urgant called me “Vadik-Mogila” on the air, saying that Seryozha shared information about the wedding with me in a friendly way, and I published it in a magazine.
Vadik, I am pleased that you are following what I am doing, because I am very closely following what you are doing. In general, I try to follow what people around are doing - you and I find reasons in everything. You are looking for reasons for your interviews, and I am looking for fun to talk about something from the screen. And due to the fact that I am at a great distance, it will not be possible to hit me, at least in the first second.
Vanya, why did you come up with Grisha Urgant? What's the catch?
This is no joke. A joke is something very short-lived. And the Grisha Urgant project is what makes me happy from the inside, I like to stand on stage, sing songs and discover that these songs are of interest to someone else. I always liked mustaches, dad used to wear mustaches, grandfather, and now this fashion is back.
I thought it would be strange if I suddenly go on stage with a mustache and start singing songs in all seriousness. Well, what will it be? And everyone will say: “Well, why is this?” Therefore, I decided to perform like this, becoming Grisha Urgant. And then, I have a friend Grisha, the first song was written just at his dacha. We had such creative union: I sang a song, and he owned a cottage where I sang this song.
So we decided to come up with the Grisha Urgant group. And so it all turned around.
Excuse me, but why do you need false mustaches?
Overhead? Vadim, I can't tell you about this. I'll tell you this: there is one hormonal, fast-acting cream. But I won't say anything more.
You have been hosting the Smak program for many years. Do you like to cook yourself?
Very. Over the years, I began to realize that I was devoting more and more time and attention to food. I love food, I love cooking, I love the kitchen, I love kitchen utensils, I love being in the kitchen, I love it when people sit in the kitchen, I love it when people sit and eat together. We sometimes gather at the dacha with friends - I really like to receive guests. I love it when my wife cooks, I help her, sometimes I cook something myself, though much less often. I really like this process: sit down, pour a glass of wine, talk about something, when you don’t have to go anywhere, when you are surrounded by people you love and love. This, it seems to me, is very energetic. important point. I am not a mystic, but I understand perfectly well that the degree of warmth of conversation is incommensurably higher when you are sitting at home than when you are sitting in the same company, but an elderly woman is dancing on a pole on a table.
You talk so appetizingly about food. I'm not a foodie at all, but...
Vadim, I have a feeling that you last time ate in 1992.
I don't eat much, it's true. Tell me, what are the things you savor the most in life?
We all seem to be the same. What is it all about - "savor"? To savor - to stretch pleasure. When you read any interesting book, already on the fourth page you understand that it is fantastic, you understand that there are seven hundred more pages. And so you put off reading, so that later you can find a more comfortable place and sit down with this book. It happens. I love to savor good films I like to savor communication with pleasant people. I am by no means a loner.
Do you love sports? For example, I can't imagine you on the football field.
Because I'm not in sports shorts now, and there's no "Kerzhakov" written on my back? But imagine that it's all on me now, and now I'm already on the football field. And to be honest, the last time I played football was in my childhood, I don’t like it very much, I’m closer to basketball. I like to watch basketball, and I like to read about basketball, and I even like to play a little.
Vanya, wherever you are, you are always in the spotlight. Was it always like this?
I've always enjoyed it since high school. Yes, I loved it in kindergarten. At school, I liked to shout something funny to my classmates and offensive to the subject we are in. this moment studied. I was often kicked out of class for being a clown.
Is this your nature?
I wanted to clown around, I wanted to neigh with everyone. Because of this, there are many gaps in my education that I would like to fill now. For example, I want to know more about history. visual arts, world history artistic culture I'm interested in it now, but then I didn't care. Recently, Natasha and I were in the Russian Museum, where they showed us the incredible Malevich, Filonov, and this caused an emotion in me.
Of course, I go to all lines. On her performances, which are staged at school. Recently there was such a story: they were asked to learn a poem about autumn. I gave Nina to read the lyrics of Shevchuk's song “What is autumn? This is the sky, the crying sky under your feet ... ". And she has phenomenal memory, she learned this poem in one second. At night I woke up in horror, I thought, why am I dragging the child into this. Everyone in the class will read “The sky was already breathing in autumn, the sun was shining less often ...”, and I have it - Shevchuk. I wake up in the morning, and my daughter has already left. I tell Natasha, they say, what to do, and she: “Don’t worry, we have already changed everything.”
What character does Nina have? Yours or Natasha?
Our daughter's personality is changing very quickly. Children grow incredibly fast - both externally and internally. Nina will be only nine in May, and she is already the same as I was at eleven or twelve. She got something from me, something she got from Natasha. Let's see, the character is still formed a little later. But she loves to laugh, that's important. And he also loves to eat, this is also important to me.
I don’t know Natasha very well, but it seems to me that she is a very serious girl.
You say that, probably because you really don’t know Natasha very well. She also knows what she says about you, and not everything is true either. I can say that Natasha is the absolute embodiment of the famous phrase of Zhvanetsky: “From wives you need to choose cheerful ones, smart ones from funny ones, gentle ones from smart ones, faithful ones from gentle ones. And patient." Well, how can you say it better? That's all there is in Natasha.
And it is impossible to meet a more cheerful person than Natasha. I can't even imagine another woman next to me.
Great! Nina, as I understand it, you named after your grandmother.
It was very funny. I always liked this name and combination - "Nina Urgant". I did not mean to please my grandmother by naming my daughter after her. We just named our daughter the name we liked, and the grandmother began to tell in all the interviews that the girl was named after her and how happy and proud she was. Natasha and I looked at each other and thought: well, why did she decide so? And then time passed, and I thought: why, indeed, I could not name my daughter in honor of Nina's grandmother? So it all came together. It's just that my grandmother understood this a little earlier than we did.
Vanya, tell me why they say that people who often joke in public are ordinary life very gloomy? Do you even have this sullenness?
Well, it's not for me to judge. Maybe I have the feeling that I am such a cheerful, gushing buffoon, but in fact I am a closed mollusk in a shell. Don't know. Of course, sometimes there is a desire to sit in silence, take a break from the sound own voice. True, there is such a desire.
It's just that most people in this profession are expected to do what they see on the screen, on stage. And when this does not happen in the first second, the person is immediately recorded as silent.
You, it seems to me, fully justify the hopes of those who expect jokes from you.
Yes, listen, I'm giving you an interview right now and I'm holding myself back - my legs are dancing under the table! The legs are dancing, the soul is torn, you understand! And I think: we would rather finish with you, would take hands with you and run with you along Stoleshnikov Lane, singing songs. Want?
Of course, I've been waiting for this moment for a long time.
Run, Vadik, run quickly! Let's run!
It is very easy to talk to Ivan. Or, conversely, very difficult. He lives in the rhythm of a joke and jokes even when it seems to be unnecessary. On his birthday, the showman shared his thoughts on the art of joking with Woman's Day.
Ivan Urgant
Double first
As I prepared for the interview...
This is very nice! Many do not do this ... And I am one of them. After all, I have been doing interviews all the time for the last two years.
Well, you have small interviews...
And no one knows if this is a plus or a minus. After all, I only have 10-12 minutes! And as soon as I calm down, as soon as the guest calms down, the interview is already over. So the advantage of the interview that you are doing is that we agreed to spend two days on it, and we will spend them.
Yes, I just took sandwiches for two days and took ...
From the first time, as you can see, a serious conversation did not work out. But I did not lose heart and went to the second round.
Double second
When I was preparing for the interview, I asked my daughter what she would like to ask Ivan Urgant. She thought for a second and asked, “Who is this?”
Ivan, if you had to explain to a child who you are, what would you say?
Well, it depends on what I need from the child ... If I need little from your child, namely that you allow her to watch TV after 11 pm, then for the rest of the children I am a good midnight wizard. I'm kind, well, don't take that away from me. On the air - most often late, around midnight ... And since your daughter, and I myself still do not understand how the TV works, it represents some kind of magic for me. That's why I'm a magician.
Do you consider yourself an adult?
It depends on the light and on the angle at which the mirror hangs ... And on the amount of clothes I have on.
And yet you have matured already?
This is also all different ... The fact is that among my close friends there are a lot of those who are older than me. In general, almost all the time I was always the youngest in the company. Even in ProjectorParisHilton he was the youngest of all. And suddenly it turned out that in the program “Evening Urgant” I was no longer the youngest ... Yes, I really didn’t think about it.
I meant a little differently. Has the inner feeling of adulthood already appeared?
No, no ... Look, I play video games with the same rapture as if I were 12 years old. But people come to me Lately Increasingly, they are referred to by their first names. At first I thought they were bullying, but then I realized: no, they are not bullying.
Do you enjoy it?
No. It is more important for me that people say “you” to me than address me by my first name and patronymic. Moreover, my colleague Sasha Tsekalo and I, when we were on stage, always said “you” to each other. And there is a certain element of the game in this.
Will the plumber who comes to your house also say “you”?
Well, naturally! Like any other to a stranger. No matter how old this person is.
Another man
Ivan Urgant
I saw your play "Mad Money". Do you have there serious role, you, what surprised and delighted me, it was the actor Ivan Urgant, and not the showman who suddenly appeared on the stage ... Why did the performance cease to exist so quickly?
It seemed to me that it was time to leave him ... This is a wonderful period of my life when I was invited to the Pushkin Theater. All the time I am offered to play a huge number of entreprises in theaters, without any claims to quality, the main thing is that the name should be on the poster. But I really wanted to come to the theater, then it was to the repertory, with a good play, a good director. And I received such an offer from Roman Kozak and enjoyed playing with Vera Alentova, Viktor Verzhbitsky ... Kolya Fomenko also played there, with whom we became friends.
Ivan, doesn’t it upset you that as a serious and good dramatic actor, you have managed to see a negligible number of viewers?
Well, listen, I did not put an end to either the theater or the cinema. Roles may appear. I'm just too busy on TV right now.
Do you miss the stage and applause?
Well, I also have a scene in the program here ...
It's not that.
But here, too, there is a spectator who comes to enjoy... You see, in recent performances I began to feel a certain routine. And I was afraid of this feeling. Then, the performance must be played often in order to be constantly in good acting shape, and because of my work, I often could not play in the theater.
Routine? In the theatre? And here, in "Evening Urgant", is there really no routine?
Every day is the same!
It's the same thing here, in the dressing room, but every day everything is different on the site: the guests are different, the music is different, the events are different! I love my job because I have the opportunity to meet people I want to meet. For example, with the actors of the series "Thaw" ...
By the way, have you actually watched all 12 episodes?
Yes. With great pleasure. And so I just watched them yesterday, and today I have the opportunity to talk with all the actors in my program. They probably looked at me as a weirdo, because for me they were still the heroes of the film that impressed me ... Through the program, I met so many people.
Dating doesn't mean making friends...
Of course, in half an hour you can’t make friends so that you don’t spill water. But I recognize many guests from a completely different perspective. Here is Roma Bilyk, the leader of the "Beasts" group, he is not at all the same as we are used to seeing him on stage. Quite unexpectedly, Yuri Antonov opened up on the program, who suddenly began to tell some funny stories.
Do you generally get along with people easily?
I try to make people who come to my program feel comfortable and comfortable here. The best test is if the guests want to come again.
Ivan, what is friendship?
…Well, when two people are friends… I guess it's different and I can't answer.
Okay, what is friendship?
Friendship is when you are confident in a person, when you are sure that a person, to the detriment of himself, without any benefit for himself, can help you. Can take part in your life, and you - in his.
Are you a sociable person?
Certainly! I am the soul and other organs of the company ... I love the feast, gatherings much more than nightclubs, restaurants and discos. I love communication. This is what I always miss.
Ivan, you are constantly on the set, constantly talking to someone, you recognize someone ... Is this really not enough for you?
Well, communication is different! I can't always tell in the studio what I tell at the table.
Minister with humor
Ivan Urgant
Let's go back to your character in the play for a moment. He is very afraid of seeming ridiculous to anyone. You seem to be the complete opposite of him?
If you are not afraid to be funny, the sea is up to your knees. Self-irony is a defense. Try to offend the person who laughs at himself along with you. Will not work. And I really appreciate this quality in people.
Do you have to defend yourself this way?
From whom? From what?
From everything that happens in life. It is necessary to treat yourself easier, to what is happening around, no matter how scary it may be. And no matter how hard it is. I think that in our country a huge number of people lack a sense of humor. Especially the legislative and executive branches.
And why should they?
What do you mean why? If they had it, then their life would be easier. And so do we.
Are you interested in politics at all?
Insofar as. Politicians came to our program several times: Anatoly Chubais, Sergei Lavrov.
How difficult is it to communicate with them?
Listen, I really liked it. We had a great conversation with Sergey Lavrov. It is pleasant to communicate with him, because he is a person with humor.
And again, when describing someone, you say “a person with humor” ... Is this the most important quality for which you value people?
No, no, I just think that when a person has a sense of humor, this already indicates the presence of intelligence. It's more interesting with such people. Well, here's a simple example. When we asked the Minister of Foreign Affairs if he had a moment when, after signing another important document for our state, he went out into the street, unraveled the knot on his tie, got into an open car and drove along the highway and the warm Swiss wind played with his hair .. And he laughed in response so merrily that I realized that he liked it.
Strict boss
Ivan Urgant
We know you as a cheerful joker and joker. How do you communicate with your superiors?
With poorly concealed subservience, but I do not deny myself the pleasure of screwing up some kind of joke.
What can Konstantin Ernst make claims to you for by calling you to the carpet?
It happens ... Well, for example, an artist comes and sings a song that is too sad, it happens that you can’t get the guest to talk. Sometimes the jokes aren't funny.
And often after the broadcast you come up with a joke much better than that what was on the air?
In 98 percent of cases.
Ladder thinking?
I didn't even know that definition. It always happens. And I say to myself: well, how can it be so! Why not! And then I console myself, they say, well, at least later I came up with a good joke.
Is the humor in the program all yours or the staff of the authors?
Of course, there is a staff of authors. I would have cracked one a long time ago. No, we are sitting, inventing something. Most of all, I like to sit with our guys and laugh at something, and it doesn’t matter if it goes into the program or not. You know, I really like coming to work. We have such a good team here.
Nevertheless, you are the boss, presenter, producer for these people. Do you have your own office?
I can hardly imagine you sitting at a large desk.
I do not go there often. Basically it is empty. We occasionally have meetings there.
Do your subordinates take you seriously?
Well, seriously to some extent. We have an easy relationship. I do not force people to come into the office with a bow, to light candles at my feet. I want people to feel their responsibility, this is the main thing.
Do you have a big responsibility?
Average. I'm just learning to be responsible.
"Average" is not a definition. I don't understand what that means.
Well, I might be late, but, fortunately, I can't help but come.
Does the boss Ivan Urgant drive, for example, does he drive himself?
Ivan, we started our conversation with the theater, and we will end it. Your very first role was as guard number 12 in Macbeth. If you were suddenly offered to play it again, what would you do with it?
I won't lie to you. How pleased I am that the very bomb that we planted when writing my biography for the site ...
This was not?
No, of course, I played a guard, but he had no number. We just came up with the number. How would I play it? Yes, I didn’t play it then ... Recently I read a book by Eduard Kochergin, the main artist of the BDT, and realized how much I, the swine, treated that task without due respect. I just went on stage, did something there and from afar looked at Alisa Brunovna Freindlikh, who, fortunately, did not notice me, and therefore my playing did not have any negative effect on her performance.
Didn't you have her?
This is one of my wishes - to invite her and Oleg Basilashvili here. You know, once his daughter Ksenia Basilashvili wrote that the city of Petersburg cannot heat the apartment where Oleg Valerianovich lives ... And since he is not only great actor, but also very humble person, he cannot come and, slamming his fist on the table, say: “I am Basilashvili, what do you allow yourself here ?!” And at such moments it becomes ashamed.
What would you like? Our president has rusty tap water coming out...
Yes! And so our goal is to help Oleg Basilashvili and the president.
Are you a humble person yourself? Can you come and, hitting the table with your fist, declare: “I am Ivan Urgant”?
No. I haven't done it yet and hopefully never will.
In the editorial office, he appeared in a completely different television image of a merry fellow and joker, who at any time of the day, in any situation and in any company is able to instantly cheer up everyone present with a couple of ironic jokes. And this is understandable: our shooting fell on the pre-snow winter morning, gloomy and not particularly cheerful. The favorite of the country, the most sought-after host of entertainment television programs, holidays and corporate parties, the radiant and sparkling hero of the screen, open and touching Vanya Urgant got out of the car rather harsh, to match the weather, a thunderer of two meters in height.
There is neither the notorious stardom in it, nor the deliberate desire to "ignite", charm and make laugh. He is polite, correct and very attentive to the words - those that his interlocutors pronounce, and even more so - to those that each time, answering, he carefully chooses himself. Jokes aside - in fact, Ivan Urgant in life is able to speak directly, simply, seriously. Almost not embarrassed - perhaps just a little bit - by his own sincerity, in conversation he constantly reflects, checks and listens to himself. Perhaps, in this attention, in this inner ear, there is a guarantee of real wit, so desired by everyone and such a rare gift of a sharp word?
“Vulgarity is an ATTEMPT to pass off SOMETHING NOT REAL AS REAL. FOR ME, SHE STANDS NEXT TO THE WORD "UNTRUE".
psychology: You work in a risky genre where the line between wit and vulgarity is very thin. What do you think is vulgarity and how do you manage to avoid it?
It's hard to say... These criteria are somewhere inside. It seems to me that one of the manifestations of vulgarity is to talk about it too seriously. Let's say a swear word in public place and in the presence of children - this is not vulgarity, but simply rudeness and bad manners. In my opinion, vulgarity lies elsewhere - in an attempt to pass off something fake as real. In my internal dictionary this word is next to the word "not true." When people tell lies, especially when lofty, piercing thoughts and feelings are replaced, this is, in my opinion, vulgarity. I don't like when sincerity goes off scale. It can also be a manifestation of vulgarity. There are people who tear chest, take out the heart and hold it out to the audience - and you understand that nothing can be higher than this. And the other does everything the same, but, except for a feeling of incredible senselessness and insincerity, it does not cause anything.
In other words, is the measure important?
I.W.: It is important to listen to yourself, to be in harmony with yourself, or at least in agreement. But I cannot say that I trust myself in everything. I more like a man doubting, incredulous, scolding himself.
Your road to success has not been smooth. How do you deal with difficult situations?
I.W.: Of course, there were moments when I needed support ... (Selects words.) When the exhausted youthful soul suffered, for example, from unrequited love or ... from undivided food, wages! In my opinion, the best way out is to be distracted from this in some business. And the worst thing is when you close yourself. The world narrows down to the size of that misfortune or problem that plunges you into despondency, into the closed space of your own experiences. And here the main thing is to remind yourself that the exit is nearby. We must try. One has only to make some effort on oneself, and everything will be completely different. Although in such a situation, you often forget about it. Or you can't hear yourself.
Have you thought about looking for some answers in psychotherapy?
I.W.: In our difficult reality, psychotherapists are our loved ones. And sometimes strangers too. I have never seen such a degree of trust between people. Western Europe, nor in North America. We are able to pour out our souls to a stranger, even regardless of whether he wants it or not. Most often this happens - as it happened in my life - not from the desire to be heard, but simply to speak out. And it really does get easier. Unfortunately, there are not always people nearby who can give good advice. Hence the colossal number of publications with photographs of women and men who will gladly reach out ... where the crystal ball already lies, to people who need to talk to someone. Personally, I will not go to some holy healer Aksinya. Probably because I believe in God… Better somehow on my own. We must try.
I.W.: Early enough. Mom raised me independent child. I have been walking alone since the age of six - first in kindergarten, then to school. I was left to sit with my younger sisters, but I did not perceive this as a duty. Mom devoted a lot of time to our upbringing and did not shift the entire burden of responsibility onto my fragile shoulders.
“THE MAXIMUM DEGREE OF FREEDOM IS ONLY FOR THE CRAZY. I WANT TO BE DEPENDENT ON SOMEONE. AND FOR THIS SOMEONE TO DEPEND ON ME.
What are you most grateful for today?
I.W.: For patience. I would have killed myself a long time ago, but my mother withstood this difficult test - to see a loud, angry and arrogant mustachioed boy next to her for a long time. I have much less patience. I know this for sure: my mother kept a unique document - a diary that she kept while I was little - from six months to five. Such short diary, which fit in two notebooks. When I was 18 years old, my mother showed them to me. It was very moving to read this. This is the same piercing touchingness that no vulgarity has touched. Because my mother wrote in her diary only what she felt. And then... The important thing is when you are given the opportunity to make decisions. When you feel like a person on whom something depends. I felt it very early, from the age of eight or nine. True, I did not always want such freedom. Rather, I wanted to be a child who is simply surrounded by care and deprived of the need to decide something on his own. I have seen many such children around me. But my mother did not give me such an opportunity. She insisted that some problems awkward situations, in which all children usually fall, I overcame myself. She helped in some ways, advised something, but never insisted or forced.
Today you are a parent too. What do you most desire for your daughter?
I.W.: I will not be original here. So that my daughter becomes an independent person as soon as possible and that she needs the help of others as little as possible in her life. So that she had the strength not to depend on anyone. From parents as well. For her to be kind person. And a smart person.
Is dependence on something generally unacceptable for you?
I.W.: We are all dependent on something to varying degrees. Maximum freedom is for madmen. And not everyone needs that kind of freedom. No, I want to be dependent on someone. And for that someone to depend on me.
When did you realize what kind of family you want to create for yourself?
I.W.: As a child, I did not have a clear sense of family. My parents separated when they were too young, and I was barely a year old then. Since before the age of 13 I didn’t even imagine how I was born, mom and dad didn’t connect for me together. But I had a grandfather, a grandmother, another grandmother and a great-grandmother. I could go back and forth while my buddies were living in their apartments with mom and dad. And that's all. I even liked it - to be something different from everyone else. Not completely different, but just a little. Probably, the desire to stand out has become for me both the engine in the profession and in the way my life is arranged at the moment.
“SENSE OF HUMOR IS NOT WHEN YOU JOKE YOURSELF, BUT WHEN YOU LAUGH. AND YOU SHOULD TRY TO DEVELOP IT IN YOURSELF SOMETHING. IT HELPS!"
But you quite early wanted to create your own family - traditional, “like everyone else”: one house, husband, wife, child ...
I.W.: You know, I realized early enough that I love children. And that I want to have my own house.
How do you see it in the future?
I.W.:
I don't like making distant plans. It's strange for me to imagine myself wrapped in a blanket, sitting by the fireplace... unable to move. And grandchildren who play with my feet, separately standing next to me! I don't imagine that. But a family, a house is, of course, a big house. And in literally big. Because I lived the first half of my life very closely. The only thing that was big in our apartment was the height of the ceilings. Yes. Family is when with children, with a loving and devoted wife. And with some... a reasonable amount of neat, clean, well-washed pets... who know exactly where their toilet is. Very important condition! This is necessarily a small number of friends devoted to you. AND a large number of friends and acquaintances. Who come to visit and have the opportunity to discuss the fate of Russia at a large round table, always under a lampshade, in between dishes deliciously prepared by your hands ...
How exactly do you describe it!
I.W.: Like a man who only yesterday hung a lampshade over a round table.
The rest - talent, health, youth, success, money - you already have. Does it make you happy?
I.W.: I'm afraid of often thinking about what I have and what I don't have. Because I once lacked many things ... You know, it is very important that everything in life appears on time. That is, when you need it. It's a sin for me to complain about what is in my life. But I try not to think about it often. All of a sudden, it all turns out to be false! I remember well how I did not have enough money - a very acute feeling.
What would you do if you didn't have them tomorrow?
I.W.: I will search everything possible ways so that they, at least to some extent, but again appear in my family. This is a component of comfort, well-being. Money is needed not to think about them. Because while there was no money, I thought about them all the time. Waiting: when will I have them? Not that I wanted to realize any dreams - everything was at the level of needs. And now I understand that the well-being of my family, my children, relatives depends on my earnings ... There is no time for fantasies in the style of “would I be on an island and under a palm tree”!
That is, everything that you do for money, do you do it with pleasure?
I.W.: Yes, but the degree of pleasure is different. But so far there has never been such a thing that I did something for money with obvious displeasure. With the exception of working as a loader in the 11th grade. Today I refuse a lot of offers. But in what I do not refuse, I try to participate not only as a performer, but also as a co-author. I try to make myself happy viewing the finished product at least a couple of times. Or at least did not cause feelings of rejection and bitterness in the mouth.
It is known that we often use humor as a defense against various life difficulties...
I.W.: Exactly! Moreover, I insist: humor and lightness, irony and laughter are the most best defense and medicine. You can't protect yourself from everything with irony, but... you have to try! It helps. I sympathize with those who do not like to laugh, do not like when they joke. A sense of humor is not when you joke yourself, but when you laugh. And you have to try to develop it in yourself somehow. Here, sit four times with a stone face at Zhvanetsky's concerts. You look, on the fifth you will start to smile - at least in familiar places!
I.W.: Certainly! I would say that a person of any profession, and especially a public one, needs confirmation that he is doing something right. At least it's going in the right direction. And he does what brings joy and pleasure not only to him, but also to someone else.
Is this spiritual return - a feeling of gratitude and love in response to your work - enough for you?
I.W.: You know, several times in my life I was told words that I, in my opinion, still do not deserve. And I was very pleased. The people who spoke were people whom I respect and whose professionalism I have no doubts about. It seems to me that there is a certain advance in these words, I would like to correspond to them.
This month the theme of our Dossier is
I.W.: Nothing changes, nothing should change! The man today and the woman today are the same as yesterday. Absence is impossible male qualities write off, say, the incredible development of some technology or plastic surgery. Real men have always been few, I think.
What do they lack?
I.W.: Degrees of sincerity, honesty - that's what is missing. Many men in our time began not only to look and dress like women, but sometimes behave like men. You know, to check how brave men live in the country, it is absolutely not necessary to get involved in a third world war. A man does not have to break a brick on his head or fix a faucet in the kitchen. But in the way he treats a woman, children, his family, parents - this is where a man manifests himself. The ideal hero was created by director Vladimir Menshov in the film “Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears”, and performed by Alexei Batalov. In our country, this is an image for all time. Although, in my opinion, such people do not exist. Intelligent men who work as locksmiths and keep shoes clean. They are ready to link their fate with a woman with a child, and at the same time they can, if necessary, go into a binge from feelings ... before that, frying kebabs and protecting the girl's young lover from hooligans. There is no such! But it seems to me that if each of us will do at least one of this list, then it’s not bad. (Insinuatingly.) For example, go on a drinking binge.
You seem to be leading healthy lifestyle life...
I.W.:(With some annoyance.) I can't comment on this because I drink and smoke and swear. But so imperceptibly that everyone gets the feeling that I'm not doing it. I think it's strange... and you shouldn't do it in early age and in excessive amounts. But there are people who drink so exquisitely and smoke so appetizingly that they immediately want to do the same! And the masterly use of obscene expressions sometimes paints our life in unique tones. Now place all this in the space covered round table under the lampshade - and you will understand what I'm talking about.
So you try to live with an appetite?
I.W.: I try to cultivate it in myself - to enjoy life. It's not about excess. You can have fun in a one-room or communal apartment. To smoke an unfiltered cigarette in the kitchen, washing it down with cheap red wine - but in such a way that you will enjoy it, and the Moldovan workers around you too!
You once said: you should always try to be ready for what fate throws at you. What else would you like her to throw in?
I.W.: Knowing that the agencies responsible for what fate throws at us regularly read the journal Psychologies, I would like to address them directly. Surprise me! I love pleasant surprises.
Private bussiness
- 1978 April 16 was born in Leningrad, in the family of theater and film actor Andrei Urgant and actress of the Comedy Theater Valeria Kiseleva. Parents soon broke up, Ivan stayed with his mother, later Valeria Ivanovna had two more daughters in her new marriage.
- 1994 Enters acting department St. Petersburg Academy theatrical art; two years later, he marries a student at the University of Culture Karina, their marriage will last six months.
- 1998 Film debut - in the film "Cruel Time" by Maxim Pezhemsky.
- 1999 Host of the Petersburg Courier on Channel Five and DJ on Superradio (St. Petersburg).
- 2000 Released an album own songs(producer Maxim Leonidov).
- 2001-2002 Host of the TV program "Cheerful Morning" on " MTV Russia”, Meets journalist Tatyana Gevorkyan, their relationship will last about three years.
- 2003 Show host National artist"On the TV channel" Russia "(paired with Fekla Tolstaya).
- 2004 Host of the TV game "Pyramid" on the channel "Russia".
- 2005 "Big Premiere" on Channel One, role in Alexander Strizhenov's film "From 180 and Above".
- 2006 Leads "Smak" on Channel One; begins dating Natalya Kiknadze, a former classmate.
- 2007 Role in the film "He, she and I" by Konstantin Khudyakov; co-host in the programs "Wall to Wall" and "Circus with Stars" on Channel One; laureate of the national TV award TEFI.
- 2008 Co-host in programs " A big difference"and" ProjectorParisHilton "on Channel One; documentary « One Story America"on Channel One (co-host paired with Vladimir Pozner); role in the film by Ivan Dykhovichny "Europe-Asia" (premier - February 2010). On May 15, Ivan and Natalia had a daughter, Nina.
- 2009 Participation in the filming of the film One-Story France (together with Vladimir Pozner).
- 2010 Rehearses the role of Vasilkov in Roman Kozak's play "Mad Money" (Pushkin Theatre).
How tired we are of Urgant's jokes in an interview.
The big problem with all Ivan Urgant's interviews is that they are impossible to watch. Because Ivan jokes everywhere and on all platforms. Even on YouTube, somewhere there is a dialogue with Olga Shelest, which was titled "Urgant tried to give a serious interview, but still joked."
If the hero answers any question frivolously, then this is a departure from the answer and, in fact, its absence. But if you look at Ivan's humor as his natural reaction, then everything falls into place - Urgant lives and exists like that. IN interview with Baste he honestly admitted that he likes to joke - let's see in the jokes the answer, and not the avoidance of it.
On GazLive, it turned out even worse than it could have been. Ivan relaxed came to an interview with a person he knew. In a situation in which I have been hundreds of times - to chat in the frame as a guest. And, it seems, he was in the mood for some kind of frankness, covered with a bunch of witticisms.
But Basta finished off the interview on the question about crucial moment. And not even a clarification about TEFI between Berman and Zhandarev, but a proposal to come up with this moment “to break the hearts of our viewers.” Look at 19:25 and catch Urgant's eye - he has just finished a personal story, and the presenter requires him to poison jokes.
Of course, the rapper received some terrible story about a burning window in the Kremlin. They put touching music on it and then even put it in the description on Twitter so that people would click.
Of course, this is a format in which sincerity is not needed. The questions here have no connection, one does not follow from the other. And it cannot be otherwise if they are sent by the audience.
It's made for the web and for citation. It was edited so that people would tear apart the issue into fragments, and journalists would pick out words for news and headlines from there (why, by the way, are time codes not prescribed for this?). And still, using a guest solely as his image is wild. This is the same as calling Bezrukov to the program and talking to him like Vysotsky.
The same week, Andrey Malakhov was on Dozhd, who repeated three times in an 80-minute interview: “I don’t like it when an interview turns out to be such a“ Caravan of stories ”. Every show has to have a reason." And then, slightly shamelessly, he reminded the presenters about the advertisement of his one-man show. It would be better if Ivan Urgant promoted something in this issue, because his sad fate is to come to such programs and give a volley of jokes, because nothing else is expected from him.
Therefore, Urgant will not be in "vDude", as is sometimes required in Yuri's comments. Ivan came to Basta and saw that they wanted him only in the form of a merry fellow - so-so motivation to come to someone else - including Dudya.
Ivan knew exactly about Yura even before millions of views, almost hired him to work at Evening Urgant and invited him as a guest when absolutely everyone was talking about a cool new interviewer.
So Dud probably had options to invite a TV presenter, but after GazLive it is not clear why this should be done. Inside there will be obligatory questions about Putin, which Ivan does not answer, and about money, which Ivan does not talk about - and then what's the point? Of course, Urgant will hide in a shell of jokes and give out something similar to an interview with Basta. It is easier to call the Big Russian Boss - he at least understands where the image ends and the ordinary person begins.
The image has already played against the entertainer from the First - now even if Urgant wants to speak out, the audience will still cackle with allusions about Isaac Babel in his speech. Ivan has driven himself into such a situation. Even the second interview with Posner (after the absolutely humorous first in 2009) turned out rotten- Ivan can't help but joke. It is necessary, but it is not yet possible to get used to it.
Basta did not succeed in turning Urgant from a jester into at least a sad clown. Yes, and there was no such task.
Ivan Urgant's jokes cost many thousands of euros, and they are worth it. In the hot season corporate evenings Against the backdrop of the falling ruble, Lenta.ru took an anti-crisis interview with the TV presenter, where there is a minimum of humor and a maximum of what he is usually not paid for.
Lenta.ru: To what extent does your humor carry a social load? How do you help people?
Urgant: The social component of my humor is beyond my own consciousness. I try not to dissect the humorous content that comes out of my mouth. It is you - the scientists, the elite, the humanities - who have been given the privilege of spreading us, the jokers, like frogs, on the windows.
What else to do with you. You, speaking in Russian, are an opinion maker.
I am not an opinion maker at all - I never speak out on some important phenomena and events. Maybe I would like to be. But. Partly. I am a semiconductor between viewer and content. Content comes to my program - in the form of actors, singers, directors, musicians, politicians, and I make sure that people on the other side of the screen and the audience in the studio know about them.
If, say, the viewer is the mouth, and the guest of my program is the soup, then I am the spoon!
Good thing it's not a fork.
I have a few more teeth.
Obviously, much more than colleagues on other channels, who can not nurture the format of the evening show, at least something similar to yours. Why do you think?
We once talked with colleagues from abroad - they complain that they constantly do not have enough guests. And by the way, we complain about the same thing. The only difference is that they have fifteen such programs, and we have one. And every evening you need to call someone into it. I am convinced that the number of popular, talented, interesting, funny people who we could invite. And the number of bright, cheerful, talented TV presenters will grow proportionally.
How do you compensate for the lack of guests?
Dress up the old ones.
By the way, about dressing up. The crisis continues, and there are fears that we will have no reason to dress up, to put on our best.
Yes, they always will! I just took and put on my best, walked along the dark streets, looked out the window, quietly counted the money in my pocket with my left hand, returned, poured it into a heating pad hot water, which he boiled on a gas stove, put under his liver, fell asleep.
Not bad. There is already some perspective. Do you have other reasons yourself?
Yes, I love to dress well. A little more and I'll start painting. But for now, I'm dressing up like crazy. Here somehow my trousers were narrowed to such an extent that my leg could not fit through them.
It's fashionable now.
When the thighs are cracking - unfashionable. The last time I heard this crack was when I was running to school in the cold at minus forty in Leningrad. In general, beautiful, neat dressed man(I’m not talking about myself now - I’m not very neat and I don’t always guess with the color of a tie) always inspires more confidence. To such a person, especially if he has a knife in his hand, I will immediately give my mobile phone, but with good feelings. After all, I will know that he will spend the money from his sale on beautiful things. Or your grandmother.
And what will we wear when there is no money left for anything, the clothes will fray, the woman will leave, and the phone will sit down?
Firstly, it's good if the phone sits down, and not someone else. Secondly, you need to take care of things. Wash in good powder. Don't wear it. Fold carefully. Then they will last a long time.
So we already wear the best all the time.
That's my problem, of course. I sometimes like to buy things for myself. Sometimes my wife gives them to me. Or I just put on her coat and say in her voice: “Vanya, here are some new trousers for you.” But as soon as I have new thing, I think: how now to wag her through these first canal slums. No, let her lie still. And then, when you take it again, you understand - that's it, she's stale! Of course, you can wear it, but you will be a fool in last year's trousers.
It was immediately noticeable.
Exactly. Our thrifty childhood speaks. We had one pair of jeans, one pair of oversized shoes, and so on. Now I insist: if you bought some thing, you need to put it on right away, and then go to bed in it. To enjoy to the fullest. And you have to be brave to part with your clothes. He took - and gave half of the wardrobe to someone.
Yes, all these hats, riding breeches, stockings, butterflies. By the way, do you know how to tie them?
I can't tie a bow tie. That's also a shame: on the logo " Evening Urgant Butterfly, but I can't handle it. But I am close friends with a person who can tie it for me. Well, butterflies are already out of fashion. Less and less I put them on the air. Ties are on trend.
Maybe improve the logo?
On the logo, the tie will look like a loop. This is already a program about the Ku Klux Klan. Not interested. And the butterfly is still a frivolous insect.
But the herring tie is serious.
Of course! Herring, black bread, onion on top. Put - ate. But this is different. This is Smak. And what are we all about clothes? We are men.
Firstly, you started, and secondly, and the truth is - there are other hobbies! Women, cars, jewelry.
Here! I give jewelry to my woman. Another of my hobbies is a sauna, billiards, ice fishing, falconry. Standard hobbies. I'm an average city dweller.
But what about suburban life? Do you have your own "Urgant Castle" - something like "Galkin's Castle"?
There is just a house. But Galkin's castle is visible from Urgant's house. It so happened geographically that even in my window, if you look closely, there is a castle where Maxim lives. I told him about it. He laughed.
Resale or built?
Everything from scratch. The whole cycle. You ask me, was Galkin's foundation pit visible from my foundation pit? No, it was not.
Let's get back to women. Is it permissible, in your opinion, for a woman to pay for a man?
This is very serious question. I'll probably take off the boa.
So. This, of course, is permissible if the woman is physically stronger. No matter how you try to pay for it, she will press you with one hand to the door jamb, and with the other she will count out these sixty-four rubles for potatoes with filler.
I am sure that a man should always pay for a woman. Especially if she is much richer than him. It will be amusing for her to watch him collect his pennies in his pockets. There are different situations. And why do we deprive a young, intelligent, beautiful, but, unfortunately, poor man of the opportunity to marry a rich widow? If you are a man, find a way to pay for a lady!
And when you want to be with a lady, but not for what?
So don't take it to a place where you can't pay for it. And the lady will probably even be able to love you. And in the future he will share with you the capital of the deceased husband. Wise woman won't drag you to an overpriced sushi bar. She will be ready to share this wonderful Dagestan cuisine with you right from the tent.
In general, the lack of money is not a reason to be ashamed. You should be ashamed if you get money by criminal means.
Say amazing things!
So we must constantly surprise each other! A man should surprise a woman. Not in the sense that she comes home, and you play preference with the ballet soloists on ice. And in the sense - to give gifts.
Is the value of a gift important?
Nobody cares. You can give the keys to the apartment so that you don’t want to take them (although this is becoming less and less common now). And you can elegantly and unexpectedly give geraniums.
The main thing is not to miscalculate with geraniums.
So let him pretend to love geraniums! He wants to do something nice! I don’t recognize conversations from the series: “Oh, don’t give me anything, you have a strange taste, I’ll buy everything for myself.” Pretend! And you pretend if she gives you the wrong geranium. And thus, by constantly pretending, you will live happily and long in a lie! But it will be a happy lie. To salvation.
In an interview with Interview magazine, you said that you would be interested in meeting with major politicians in the frame - to ask what kind of wine they like, what they sincerely laugh at, what kind of people they are in general. Fortunately, they are not with us now, so all these questions are for you.
What am I laughing at? Over the film "Land of Oz" by Vasily Sigarev!
Not a bad way to make yourself laugh.
Have you seen the movie? Yes? No! You lied and I told the truth. I recommend all your readers, and there are many of them, to watch this movie. I know a lot of people who don't laugh at him. And I laughed to tears. I even rewatched this movie several times. Sometimes I laugh in silence because of Have a good mood. When I get into a closed space where there are no windows. I walk on it, I begin to exude humorous energy and laugh. But this is more like a diagnosis.
What car is best suited for what age of a man?
Toward the end - a hearse. Somewhere in the beginning of life - a children's car with pedals. Between these two vehicles- Audi.
What model do you have?
I have different ones. I drive a new Audi Q7. I also have an A8 Long. The car business is set up in such a way that when you get into one model, you think: hell, when will another one come out. When another one comes out, I want the first one to be updated too. It's like with mobile phones. They come out every second. And you do not have time to enjoy one car, as another one has already appeared - with a new line of headlights.
Come on, what diodes! Now you can already set any color of interior lighting. I hope that someday a wire will be connected to me so that the lighting in the cabin changes depending on my mood. Red is on - do not ask for documents from this person.
